Hidden camera shows




 
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Boots
 
January 20th, 2004  
Redneck
 
 

Topic: Hidden camera shows


I just had the ill-fortune to run across MTV's show "Boiling Point" where a group of people run around pretty much passive-aggressively bullying people for given amounts of time. The victims get some money if they let themselves be pushed around without cussing or even walking away.
Now I'm not trying to come across as some brawler or tough guy or anything, but what the heck is wrong with these people? Some of the things they do, if they were done to me, would earn them a trip to the ER (the one I saw had some private security guard who planted shoplifted goods on several people and then asked for bribes). It's like they're trying to train a generation of pansies. Sometimes selfrestraint goes too far, especially with expecting these victims to not even just walk away from the situation. It's not maturity and responsibility, if you ask me, it's just plain old cowardice, letting people push them around.

Haha, just figured I'd see what you all thought of these things, I couldn't believe it when I saw it, still can't.
January 20th, 2004  
Chris
 
 
Pacifism my ass.

That's why I have a M7 under the seat in my car.
January 20th, 2004  
D_Plus_One
 
I don't think maturity and responsibility really come into play in a situation like that. And I also don't think maturity and cawardice are opposites. I think it is important to note that liekly for every person they got on the show there are probably 10 who refused to sign waivers to participate ina stunt like that. It is a perspective issue, and we are seeing the people who were willing to participate. It's like seeing the Jack@$$ clips with the guys running after bystanders to get them to sign releases, there are tons of footage which never even reach the air.
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Boots
January 20th, 2004  
Redneck
 
 
I did not say that maturity and cowardice were opposites.

I also realize that there have to be a load of people they don't put in the show, my whole point was that the show's producers and MTV are presenting the push-overs as having exhibited the proper action in those situations. It generates the idea that one should not stand up for oneself because doing so is not socially acceptable, and I believe this idea is bull-puckie and is harmful to our society.
January 20th, 2004  
Chris
 
 
Pretty much anything on MTV is harmful to our society. I for one have often been accused of being older than I really am. In fact, I told several people at the end of last month that I was turning 30 on 5 Jan, and 90% of them actually believed me. For the record, I'm 22.

It just disgusts me sometimes that those shows on MTV are and have become so "pop culture". I don't really have anything against that if it's someone's thing to go to Blink 182 concerts and drink every Friday and Saturday nights until you pass out. Now I've done my share of underage drinking, tobacco use, drag racing on the streets, carrying a concealed weapon, threatening someone that posed a threat to my family....the usual late teen and early 20's stuff. But now, I guess I've grown too old for my skin and just look at that as pre-maturity.

Even though that I'm also a Freemason, which teaches brotherhood of all man through service to one God, I still believe that a person has a right to defend themselves, their family, property and freedoms to the last man standing.

Given the fact that I still get irritated very easilly, I wouldn't last 5 minutes with some of the things that they do on that show.

I guess I'll end this novel with an old quote from a ninjitsu master from the 900's: "Insult rather than harm. Harm rather than strike. Strike rather than maim. Maim rather than kill."
January 20th, 2004  
Redneck
 
 
I guess I just wasn't desensitized to that stuff early enough, this is the first year I've ever had a TV, and I really honestly can't believe some of the stuff that's on.

Haha, listen to me, I sound like someone's Grandpa.

Yarr!
January 20th, 2004  
GuyontheRight
 
MTV, VH1, I hate em all. Your basic counter-cultural source that seems to be affecting all our teens.
January 21st, 2004  
diplomatic_means
 
The problem is that they aren't counter cultural. They define our current culture.
January 21st, 2004  
>*CrAzY*<
 
 
i don't see a problem with them... Teens today understand the message... I haven't seen the show, but I would understand it...

Another thing, you can't totally get a teen to ignore punches and stuff... but u can show them that some people have the self control to not kill them...

maybe i'm ust lookin through another "generations" eyes (not callin anyone old, i'm just in a different generations thought, altho some here are around my age... we still see things through different eyes)
January 22nd, 2004  
GuyontheRight
 
Im 15. I hate MTV, my girlfriend loves it. Were in the same generation