You have to arm a country




 
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November 1st, 2013  
Yossarian
 
 

Topic: You have to arm a country


So here is the situation, a new country is formed in 2014 in Eastern Europe about the size of Estonia, your new country's defense minister, Chief Of Staff and Director of the Army have a sit down with you, a General in the new country's Army.

Your job is simple, you have been given $10 Billion U.S. Dollars each for your new country's Armored Corps and Mechanized Infantry. Also you have been instructed that if you purchase any NATO weapon systems, you can ONLY buy NATO systems, the same for any other outside Military vehicles and weapons.

And you have also Inherited ZERO military vehicles and weapons from your old territory. Also the cost of training is already covered.

So what will be your choice? And how would you spend your $20 Billion?
November 2nd, 2013  
BritinAfrica
 
 
First of all I'd have a huge castle built complete with moat, then buy a couple of business jets, helicopters, a few Rolls Royce motor cars, Range Rovers, a couple of Triumph Bonnevilles and Nortons, a protection squad of gorgeous young ladies and pay some pillock to organise the military while I played with al the toys.
November 2nd, 2013  
Yossarian
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BritinAfrica
First of all I'd have a huge castle built complete with moat, then buy a couple of business jets, helicopters, a few Rolls Royce motor cars, Range Rovers, a couple of Triumph Bonnevilles and Nortons, a protection squad of gorgeous young ladies and pay some pillock to organise the military while I played with al the toys.

I didn't say it had to be that realistic.
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November 2nd, 2013  
MontyB
 
 
Well if I only have 20 Billion to play with then I am going to go with Russian gear, not because I like it or rate it better than western gear but it is cheap and effective so I am going to get more for my money which will allow for a better supply of replacement parts.

Chinese gear is possibly cheaper but given the poor quality of Chinese quality control the last thing I need is an MBT with the armour glued on.
November 2nd, 2013  
muscogeemike
 
I have to agree with Monty.
November 2nd, 2013  
Yossarian
 
 
That's what I considered as well, I figured you could have a handful of fancy western vehicles with the latest APPs.

Or more Russian vehicles for the same amount of currency.
November 2nd, 2013  
MontyB
 
 
When you consider that Russian equipment is roughly a third to half the price of western equipment it makes some sense to buy it as it allows you to buy a ready stock of spares as well, on top of this Russia does seem more open to the idea of licensing manufacture which has the benefit of giving you control of your logistics.

If I was starting from scratch it is the way I would go, lets face it buy NATO/US gear and you are still getting stripped down equipment who's supply is subject to all sorts of political games (Iran's F-14's for example) so why not go with the cheaper option that also gives you an opportunity to develop your own industry.

One area that does concern me with Russian equipment though is optics and fire control systems and in terms of armour that may be enough to put me off.

There is of course the alternative of a third party purchase (Not NATO) though for example Israeli equipment although I have no idea how they compare cost wise.
November 8th, 2013  
Easy-8
 
 
http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...d/spending.htm

nations by military spending. this will give you an idea of how good or numerous your equipement can be.

There are factors to consider here:

- how big is the country in question?
- what is its economy like?
- what is the population?
- is there conscription?
- does it have a water front or is it landlocked?
- what is the terrain like?
- how aggressive are my neigbors?
- how aggressive is my nation?
- what is the general attitude of the population towards the military?
November 10th, 2013  
Yossarian
 
 
Well your nation in question is mainly a forested/open plains type of Eastern European landscape.

The rough size in question is listed in the Original Post.

However, I was interested in how you could stack with a limited budget with various vehicle line ups from various nations. As to what member's here opinion on what a mechanized military force should consist of.

As of your potential adversaries, European NATO armies to the West, and Eastern European Armies to the East.

Your country also has no overseas assets to defend.
November 11th, 2013  
hamidreza
 
First I would try to find a powerful ally like Russia or NATO to joint them to be sure of my security. Then I would spend 30 to 40 percent of the budget to bring technology from my ally to produce weapons , specially light weapons or the weapons which have double-use technology ( military and civilian ), to have a good support for my army and economy in future.
with the rest of the budget I prefer defensive weapons to offensive weapons because those are several times cheaper. So I would buy a good air-defense system and a few good interceptor aircraft like MIG-31 to protect my sky and beside them I would buy some missiles like Alexander to have an offensive power too.
 


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