Hair Cuts. - Page 6




 
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April 14th, 2010  
A Can of Man
 
 
Precisely.
Pulling the anti-Semitism card prematurely is pretty much the same as pulling the racism card prematurely.
April 15th, 2010  
Hook160th
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by usinfantryMOS11c10
*S I D E B U R N S*

N O T I C E I S A I D

S I D E S O F B E A R D

I typed large for you since you were unable to see the very easily seen sideburns.

And I was getting married, which I typed below the pictures. Attention to detail. If your wondering why I'm not being nice anymore it's because all I've seen since I logged in for the first time has been Anti-Religion (Especially if your Jewish), Anti Semitism, Racism, and various other isms.

And I'm going through a divorce.

I expected to have adult conversations about the military here, and not arguments over clearly stated military guidelines, or whether my people are even a people.

I really just want to relax.
Thank you for the large type, I appreciate it as I can`t readily see your sideburns. And no, I`m not wondering why you aren`t being nice anymore, I don`t care. Maybe you weren`t aware of it, but this is a big boy forum. Other people besides you have opinions, thoughts, and feelings about the world around them. They come in here, and express them. If that bothers you, then do yourself a favor and stay away.
April 17th, 2010  
usinfantryMOS11c10
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JulesLee
I heard that in Air Force theres no hair standard? and what if its ur religion not to cut your hair?

This was the original post question. It seems I am the only one that can be a "big boy", as you said in order to somehow provoke a response and deal with your own insecurities by poking fun as a group at another, and Just Answer the darn question correctly. He asked for the Answer and I was the only one to give him the correct answer. The question wasn't do you think religious haircutting should be allowed, the question just asked if it was okay or not by military guidelines, and the military guidelines say yes. If you would like to perhaps call a congressmen since you aren't taking my word or the Department of Defense's word on it.... be my guest. However if you choose not to believe factual evidence, perhaps your the one that needs to change out of your animal skins ughh, and get adjusted to the 21st Century. If the law is like this and supports this, it must mean "THE MAJORITY" agreed on it. If you find a problem with it, I didn't write the law.
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April 17th, 2010  
usinfantryMOS11c10
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hook160th
Thank you for the large type, I appreciate it as I can`t readily see your sideburns. And no, I`m not wondering why you aren`t being nice anymore, I don`t care. Maybe you weren`t aware of it, but this is a big boy forum. Other people besides you have opinions, thoughts, and feelings about the world around them. They come in here, and express them. If that bothers you, then do yourself a favor and stay away.
If I read the RULES, correctly you aren't supposed to express your opinion OH WISE ONE! I'm pretty sure the forum rules stated that if you don't know the answer to a question, don't speculate on it. It's not up for debate, right is right, and wrong is wrong, and if you aren't smart enough to handle it perhaps you should stop worrying so much about being a big boy and dwelling in your insecurities and learn to read.
April 17th, 2010  
senojekips
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by usinfantryMOS11c10
If I read the RULES, correctly you aren't supposed to express your opinion OH WISE ONE! I'm pretty sure the forum rules stated that if you don't know the answer to a question, don't speculate on it. It's not up for debate, right is right, and wrong is wrong, and if you aren't smart enough to handle it perhaps you should stop worrying so much about being a big boy and dwelling in your insecurities and learn to read.
None of which prevents any member from expressing his/her opinion on any matter. Otherwise there would be no discussion here, everything would be cast in stone and unable to be debated, in fact there would be no purpose in having the forum at all.

C'mon let's be just a little tiny bit realistic here.

fo·rum

  <a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/audio.html/lunaWAV/F03/F0316200" target="_blank"> /ˈfɔrəm, ˈfoʊrəm/ Show Spelled[fawr-uhm, fohr-uhm] Show IPA
–noun,pluralfo·rums, fo·ra  /ˈfɔrə, ˈfoʊrə/ Show Spelled[fawr-uh, fohr-uh] Show IPA. 1.the marketplace or public square of an ancient Roman city, the center of judicial and business affairs and a place of assembly for the people.

2.a court or tribunal: the forum of public opinion.

3.an assembly, meeting place, television program, etc., for the discussion of questions of public interest.

4.the Forum, the forum in the ancient city of Rome.


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April 17th, 2010  
Hook160th
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by usinfantryMOS11c10
If I read the RULES, correctly you aren't supposed to express your opinion OH WISE ONE! I'm pretty sure the forum rules stated that if you don't know the answer to a question, don't speculate on it. It's not up for debate, right is right, and wrong is wrong, and if you aren't smart enough to handle it perhaps you should stop worrying so much about being a big boy and dwelling in your insecurities and learn to read.

I took your advice, and learned to read. What I read in this thread, was people expressing their opinion regarding the DOD rules governing grooming standards. The concensus seems to be that while the rules allowing you to have your hair a certain way, or wear religious items, is in fact present......maybe it shouldn`t be. This is where "opinions" come in to play. See how that works? We have the FACT that the rule does exist.......but......we then have the OPINIONS that maybe it shouldn`t.
April 17th, 2010  
Del Boy
 
In that case, it appears that opinion is invited and welcomed, so here we are:-

Quote:-

"fo·rum

  <a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/audio.html/lunaWAV/F03/F0316200" target="_blank"> /ˈfɔrəm, ˈfoʊrəm/ Show Spelled[fawr-uhm, fohr-uhm] Show IPA
–noun,pluralfo·rums, fo·ra  /ˈfɔrə, ˈfoʊrə/ Show Spelled[fawr-uh, fohr-uh] Show IPA. 1.the marketplace or public square of an ancient Roman city, the center of judicial and business affairs and a place of assembly for the people.

2.a court or tribunal: the forum of public opinion.

3.an assembly, meeting place, television program, etc., for the discussion of questions of public interest.

4.the Forum, the forum in the ancient city of Rome."


The above quote is a typical pony argument from The Dark Lord of Logic.

Now then, my opinion prefers this :-


"When midnight mists are creeping,
And all the land is sleeping,
Around me tread the mighty dead,
And slowly pass away.

Lo, warriors, saints, and sages,
From out the vanished ages,
With solemn pace and reverend face
Appear and pass away.

The blaze of noonday splendour,
The twilight soft and tender,
May charm the eye: yet they shall die,
Shall die and pass away.

But here, in Dreamland's centre,
No spoiler's hand may enter,
These visions fair, this radiance rare,
Shall never pass away.

I see the shadows falling,
The forms of old recalling;
Around me tread the mighty dead, and slowly pass away."



Profound and spiritual for man, whatever the hair-cut.
December 20th, 2010  
dombarber
 
 

Topic: Female recruits haircutting


Quote:
Originally Posted by dombarber
How short is the hair cut for female recruits at the VMI induction day ?
Anyone with first hand experience ?
December 24th, 2010  
DOC, One of Many
 
A great deal of the problem in this particular thread is the abstraction of hair and the lack of an experience bridge between posters. Trusting that boot camp hasn't changed since I have been out, there will be at least one undesirable haircut event for everyone. Nevertheless, while it is desirable to seek to comply with one's religious beliefs, there is a further consideration: the practical in the face of the political.

I will not seek to either castigate or defend anyone's religious traditions; I will only ask that thought be given to what I am proposing:

The British Navy lost an overwhelming number of sailors during the Falkland's war due to burning aluminum and polyester. The aluminum because the vessels were becoming top heavy and polyester because it does look better after a whole day of work lest someone be offended by a working man's appearance. There are other ways to lighten the top of a vessel or alternatively, make the bottom heavier but those cost much more than the aluminum solution. An on-base locker room might be helpful and even encourage fitness but they do cost money to build and maintain and hence, hundreds lost their lives.

The extended coverage of the Kevlar helmet is due to experience that has accumulated since the second world war that a bullet or shrapnel can get under the helmet so as to kill whilst leaving the helmet intact. Modifications due to advances in the state of the art of chemistry have come to allow a lighter and better fitting helmet to be made. However, Kevlar is neither breathable nor all that great at exchanging heat to the environment.

Finally, there is that old standby, the gas mask. Whether the old M-17 or the new M-50, these masks are protective only if a tight fitting seal is achieved. Some have argued that the hood would serve to protect those who have longer hair. However, this has not been found to be the case; it merely delays the penetration by riot agents (which are actually particulates rather than gases.) When one hears metal to metal clanging, one is expected to rapidly don the mask and then assist others if need be. Finally, assuming MOPP -4 protection is advisable as, until the agent is identified, there is simply no way to determine the effects and all nerve agents, all convulsants, and some blister agents are absorbed by the skin and some blister agents will damage the skin even if they are not absorbed into the bloodstream.

It may be politically expedient to emphasize the willingness of the armed forces to accommodate those whose beliefs differ; nevertheless, I hope that the aforementioned examples at the least, pave the way for some more moderate discussion of this topic as the topic is of considerable import (for reasons that have never been all that clear to me personally) to the average recruit. I also hope that these examples might suggest to those who are currently serving but also practicing a rather stricter interpretation of their faith that perhaps they are being political beacons of tolerance but at the price of putting their own life at considerable risk.

Ladies and gentlemen, please be civil to one another and remember that it could have been yesterday that we all fought shoulder to shoulder.

Lastly, the example of the London Police or the Metropolitan Police is inappropriate to the discussion as traffic police and patrol duty officers are not generally placed in situations such as a tactical officer might face. Thus, Nomex, Steel, Syntactic foams for helmet suspensions, Butyl rubber or PolyNitrille gloves and gas masks accompanied by activated charcoal and non-absorbent fabrics.