German Reeanactors




 
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September 1st, 2004  
Lilmissflamethrower
 
 

Topic: German Reeanactors


Here is a website for German stuff:

http://www.thuringenmilitaria.com/
September 1st, 2004  
Bootboy82
 
They have some nice stuff there but a lot of crap, too. Especially all of the SS sh*t
September 1st, 2004  
Lilmissflamethrower
 
 
I don't do German stuff What is stuff? Are you saying its bad quality or bad because its censored?
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September 1st, 2004  
Bootboy82
 
It is the thought of people running around in SS Uniform, that makes me sick. I'm not against reenactments at all and I'd like to do one myself someday.
I would even wear a Wehrmacht's uniform with all the insignias it must have to look authentic, no matter if it is illegal here or not. That is not the point that concerns me.

I just think there is a line that should not be crossed, in this case dressing up like one of the worst criminals the German history has ever seen just for fun.
September 1st, 2004  
Lilmissflamethrower
 
 
I understand your concerns very much. The problem is - you cannot do a reenactment without both sides.

I am involved in reenacting and the battles have to have both sides or what would be the point?

But again, I understand your issues a lot. I am Armenian and I was wondering what it would be like if people reenacted the Armenian Genocide? I would not find it amusing and would really feel sick about it.

So I see it both ways...

Also, our group (before me) did a reenactment with a Japanese group. They were really Japanese and they didn't seem to mind doing it. Everyone knows the Japanese tortured the American prisoners so one could say that it is sickening to portray the Japanese (in the WWII sense only) but there you go...
September 5th, 2004  
SLR owner
 
Here is my 2 cents....The Waffen SS was a military organisation which fought as a MILITARY unit. Any argument to the contrary is ludicrous , and doesn't encompass an understanding of what the SS was. Although in some rare instances(most notably with the 3.SS) , personnel which were wounded would be shipped off to work the concentration camps , this was by far the exception rather than the rule. For the most part , the 2 branches(camps , military) worked seperately and distinctly of each other. To categorically brand ALL SS vets(and I know a few) as maniacly evil people is WRONG and misinformed. Also the issue was addressed of reenacting massacres or genocides....this is silly....WW2 Reenacting is apolitical(vehemently in most units) and is done for military history purposes , not political history.....there is a difference you know.
September 10th, 2004  
Six
 
I don't think we should stereotype WW2 German, and especially SS soldiers. I believe that most, (or at least many) German soldiers were fighting not for Hitler or the Nazi party, but for their country. I have discussed this with a Veteran of WW2 German SS and Parachute units, and he agrees with me on this. Granted, there were many exceptions, but I don't think there is any problem with reenacting battlefield SS units.
September 11th, 2004  
Lilmissflamethrower
 
 
Whether they are SS or not, you can't do a reenactment with only one side. Otherwise it would like kinda stupid (it already looks stupid enough!) running around fighting with pretend enemies...
September 12th, 2004  
Caffeine
 
Stuff like that needs to be rubbed in peoples faces. People generally don't like to see the bad points in history, namely the branch of the SS that did all those atrocious things. That fact is they did them and we can't change that. The best we can do is show the people what happend through history so they don't forget. I saw a very disheartening thing on TV the other day that interviewed kids, somewhere between the ages of 13 and 17, about the Holocaust. You would be suprised how many of them had never heard of it. The fact is our history is what made us what we are today and re-enacting, teaching, etc are was of reminding us what took place. Heaven fogive if we forget what took place. We would surely be doomed to repeat it.
September 12th, 2004  
Lilmissflamethrower
 
 
A lot of it depends on the American group you are representing. If the group you are in never fought the SS, then your reeanactment group will probably not be fighting the SS.

It depends on the date and battle you are recreating too. So a few factor go into who you are going to be up against. Its not a random decision.