Fully Automatic Shotgun




 
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October 16th, 2004  
godofthunder9010
 
 

Topic: Fully Automatic Shotgun


I was wondering what people's thoughts on the Jackhammer are. Also curious if there are any contemporary and/or better designs. The usefulness of it seems limited, but it certainly is one helluva lot of firepower. http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/sh10-e.htm
October 16th, 2004  
c/Commander
 
 
You're better off with an M-16 or AK-47 variant at a longer range. One shot, the enemy is dead if you're good. With a shotgun you've gotta be very close, and the kick on even a pump-action is incredible.
October 16th, 2004  
godofthunder9010
 
 
Yeah, looking at the Jackhammer, its like the the ultimate panic button for short range. I did some looking around and there are several other models of the thing, but mostly from 3rd world countries (where killing mass amounts of people at once is a bonus I suppose).
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October 16th, 2004  
SOT_II
 

Topic: Re: Fully Automatic Shotgun


Jackhammer was all about CQB, there are VERY few select fire or full auto shotguns being used anywhere let alone being produced. I think most could count on one had the number of full auto shotgun versions and none of them are in full production or in full issue anywhere.

Most novices will look at the drum and think it's like a striker or something of that ilk and it's not at all. It was WAY before it's time.

The drum is factory sealed, not loaded in the field. The drum is disposable and actually can be used as a AP landmine.
October 17th, 2004  
Redleg
 
 
Here's an old thread about the jackhammer and another auto shotgun..

http://www.military-quotes.com/forum...pic.php?t=3610

Cool, but useless weapons..
October 17th, 2004  
Sea_Cadet
 
Best light weight one is the Spas-12
October 17th, 2004  
SOT_II
 
Not select fire, pump and semi-auto. The Jackhammer is select fire (safe, semi, and full auto.

The SPAS-12 is by no means the "best" nor is it light weight. In fact it could very well be considered one of the worst. If anything the SPAS 15 would maybe be a mediocre one...but again that's not full auto either.


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Originally Posted by Time
Best light weight one is the Spas-12
October 17th, 2004  
Sea_Cadet
 
Spas-12 has flaws I know, but I still like it.
October 17th, 2004  
SOT_II
 
But again, the jack hammer is a selct fire weapon (semi/full auto) shot gun, the SPAS-12 is not. So it can't be a better version of a full auto shotgun when it's not one to start with.

Question:
"I was wondering what people's thoughts on the Jackhammer are. Also curious if there are any contemporary and/or better designs."

You say SPAS 12 is better and lighter...but it's not a contemporary or a better design of a full auto shotgun, as it' isn't one.


SPAS-12 is pump and semi auto only.
SPAS-15 S pump and semi auto only
Jackhammer select fire semi and full auto...different animals.

One could maybe argue that the USAS-12 is a better select fire shotgun,

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Originally Posted by Time
Spas-12 has flaws I know, but I still like it.
October 17th, 2004  
godofthunder9010
 
 
Interesting that the USAS12 is a Korean made weapon. By its name, you'd think it was an American make.

I see tremendous merit to the concept of a fire selectable fully-automatic shotguns, especially in hostile environments and/or any situation that is likely to see a need for throwing a lot of deadly projectiles in the air in a very short amount of time -- so ideally flechettes ammo so you have some penetration -- would be used. The usefulness of a single fire shotgun has proven its place in the military arsenal. This would just be a shotgun with an extra option, so its hardly useless.

Definitely, the Jackhammer or USAS12 would not your main weapon. Lack accuracy at decent range is a real problem.