Dowding's Costly Blunder in the Battle of France - Page 16




 
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November 30th, 2011  
samneanderthal
 
The hole situation in the eastern theater was absurd. Mountbatten, a handsome, aristocratic retard who conceived the iceberg aircraft carrier, pink ship camouflage, Dieppe, etc, Was simultaneously above and below Stillwell. In this British Alice in Wonderland nightmare, Stillwell who insisted on mounting a major offensive to liberate Burma (as Churchill had promised Roosevelt) was consistently denied the resources to attack and had to train a Chinese division and had to waste years and thousands of troops and billiions of dollars building the most expensive and useless road in history, the Burma road, which took so long to build that it was not needed when it was finished.
It is indeed a shame when the British empire with millions of Indians and Billions of dollars of American equipment has to rexsort to guerrilla tactics (Chindits, which were made possible only by extremely costly American air supply)
Had Roosevelt ignored Churchill and instead of extracting an empty promise to liberate Burma ASAP, sent Stillwell half the American suppplies sent to Monty simply to stop Rommel (instead of wiping him out). Burma would have fallen in 1942 and China would have been supplied through Rangoon. By the way the British geniuses left 800,000 tons of AMerican supplies destined for China in the docks of Rangoon that the Japanese appreciated very much. It didn't occur to them to burn them, dump them in the sea, etc,. Great allies.
The US had to spend a fortune supplying China over the Hump for years, courtesy of Churchill.
November 30th, 2011  
lljadw
 
The usual nonsens
November 30th, 2011  
lljadw
 
It is obvious that Sam also is a psychiatrist,because he KNOWS (how ?No body knows,but,Sam's ways are inscrutable)that Mointbatten was a retard .
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December 1st, 2011  
samneanderthal
 
it is spelled nonsense

Stilwell also had to deal with the surreal situation in China. Roosevelt was sending Chiang billions in L-L materiel but Chiang was hording it. He was affraid that his generals would use it to fight against him.
The massive autumn Japanese offensive destroyed the very expensive airfields America had built for the B-29s and an American officer had to blow up whole warehouses full of cannon, ammunition, etc, to prevent the Japs from capturing it.
Like I said, had Stillwell received the equipment given to Monty and Chiang, he would have kicked the Japs out of Asia. Chiang's recruits starved by the hundreds of thousands and would have been very glad to fight for the US for rice. Britain also let. Britain let millions of Indian civilians starve, when Japan took over Burma, the main rice exporter in the world. There was enough grain, but British bureaucracy did not distribute it. It was only interested in recruiting Indians, not in feeding them.
December 1st, 2011  
lljadw
 
1)Prove that Stillwell could expell the Japanese out of Asia (Btw:where would they go? IMHO,Japan is a part of Asia)
2)Prove that there was enough grain,but that the British refused to give it to the Indians
December 1st, 2011  
BritinBritain
 
 
Its obvious that numbnut has never been in jungle conditions, and doesn't have a clue as usual what he's talking about. Have you ever even tried moving regimental size formations through thick jungle that can take a week to move half a mile?

Oh by the way neantherdal, you spelled Falklands wrong. you need to get your own act in order before criticising others.

Where is your checkable proof that Mountbatten was a retard you silly little man.

Its quite obvious that neanderthal is a Anglophobe and refuses to credit British commanders with any skill whatsoever.

I have one wish for him however, "May you live in interesting times."
December 1st, 2011  
samneanderthal
 
Hi BritinAfrica,
The Japanese invaded Burma in a pretty short time with a smaller navy and many fewer planes than Monty had available. Why would you invade through the Jungle when you have the largest navy in the world and Rangoon is close to Indian ports.
But even if you decide to invade through the Jungle, the Japs attacked India and lost only because they had no air supply or support, so they arrived without food and with very few munitions (mortar shells, etc,), no artillery, etc, It is much easier to invade when you can count on airplane supply with a large number of cargo planes and support with bomber-fighters like the P-38, Airacobra, etc,

The only problem was that Roosevelt trusted Churchill completely with the invasion of Burma and Chuchill did nothing for years other than sacrifice a few guerrrilla fighters and mount a pretty stupid invasion that was stopped in the Box (the British placed all their forces in the worst possible place, sorrounded by mountains and had heavy casualties and stopped the invasion). In China Roosevelt also left the matter to Chiang, who was not only stupid but also paranoid and extremely corrupt.
Had the American Generals had a small fraction of the Indian troops and the billions of dollars in equipment, fuel, food, etc, sent to Africa, Stalin and Chiang, the war would have been over long before and with fewer casualties and much more effective participation from India and China.
December 1st, 2011  
84RFK
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by samneanderthal
Hi BritinAfrica,
The Japanese invaded Burma in a pretty short time with a smaller navy and many fewer planes than Monty had available. Why would you invade through the Jungle when you have the largest navy in the world and Rangoon is close to Indian ports.
But even if you decide to invade through the Jungle, the Japs attacked India and lost only because they had no air supply or support, so they arrived without food and with very few munitions (mortar shells, etc,), no artillery, etc, It is much easier to invade when you can count on airplane supply with a large number of cargo planes and support with bomber-fighters like the P-38, Airacobra, etc,

The only problem was that Roosevelt trusted Churchill completely with the invasion of Burma and Chuchill did nothing for years other than sacrifice a few guerrrilla fighters and mount a pretty stupid invasion that was stopped in the Box (the British placed all their forces in the worst possible place, sorrounded by mountains and had heavy casualties and stopped the invasion). In China Roosevelt also left the matter to Chiang, who was not only stupid but also paranoid and extremely corrupt.
Had the American Generals had a small fraction of the Indian troops and the billions of dollars in equipment, fuel, food, etc, sent to Africa, Stalin and Chiang, the war would have been over long before and with fewer casualties and much more effective participation from India and China.

Pardon me, but I seem to recall another post in some thread where you kind off dismissed the Aircobra off as being almost airworthy on pair with an acordion in a dogfight....?
December 1st, 2011  
samneanderthal
 
Around 7,000 Airacobras were made, half of them sent to the USSR. I said that many Soviet aces preferred it over Soviet fighters (many of which had no mechanical computer to adjust several settings with one motion, so many Soviet pilots had to adjust 9 levers and knobs while fighting) and used it quite effectively after removing the machine guns and using only the 37 mm cannon (Pokrishkin, etc,). The British rejected it as unfit for service. Its 37 mm cannon could easily knock out the Japanese toy tanks and would have been quite useful for ground attack and against any Japanese planes other than the Ki-43 and Zero in 1942. The P-38 being more than a match for the best Jap fighters of the time and formidable for ground support, even at long range.
December 1st, 2011  
84RFK
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by samneanderthal
Around 7,000 Airacobras were made, half of them sent to the USSR. I said that many Soviet aces preferred it over Soviet fighters (many of which had no mechanical computer to adjust several settings with one motion, so many Soviet pilots had to adjust 9 levers and knobs while fighting) and used it quite effectively after removing the machine guns and using only the 37 mm cannon (Pokrishkin, etc,). The British rejected it as unfit for service. Its 37 mm cannon could easily knock out the Japanese toy tanks and would have been quite useful for ground attack and against any Japanese planes other than the Ki-43 and Zero in 1942. The P-38 being more than a match for the best Jap fighters of the time and formidable for air support, even at long range.
But still, I remember you dismissed most Soviet fighters as utter rubbish, given the fact that the Finnish air force was ablo to score heavy numbers with their obsolete fighters.
If the Aircobra was only marginally better than a Polikarpov I-15 there would be no sense in sending them to the Burma theatre either...
 


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