Which culture circle possessed the greatest military power? - Page 4




View Poll Results :Which culture circle possessed the greatest military power during the Middle Ages?
Europeans 23 52.27%
Middle East 9 20.45%
East Asians 12 27.27%
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February 19th, 2006  
LeEnfield
 
 
During the times of King James things went to pot in England until he got the push and William and Mary took over. There was incident where Dutch had a good success against us and the King carried the can.
April 27th, 2006  
poacher63
 
Yep certainly thats where the phrase "Dutch Courage" comes from the only Battle honour that British and Dutch Marines share Medway. However only a slight spanking by the Dutch ending with a big 'Slapping' by the English. General of the Navy Robert Blake your time is Nigh!!
May 5th, 2006  
WarMachine
 
 
The mongols never really tried to take over Europe, it was just another expansion. They went all out against china and the middle east and conquered those regions, but there was a conservative interest in europe as the generals there were given limited troops. Had the mongols gone on a large offensive against europe, then they would have a healthy chunk of that continent for sure.
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May 9th, 2006  
LeEnfield
 
 
If they had taken it would they have had the numbers to control it
May 10th, 2006  
WarMachine
 
 
It would probably started falling apart in less than a century like in China, but it would have had a major impact like it did in asia. Nationalism would have given rise and germany probably would have become a unified kingdom rather than the mess it was before. The papacy would be in danger since the pope would have probably been killed or something by the mongols and there would be no one to take his place for decades. Britain would be ok like Japan was, but would have used this situation to their advantage and grab chunks of Europe where they could.

France would probably emerge stronger as well since they worked together for once against a common enemy, but their realm would be smaller. Marco Polo would be visited by the mongols instead of the other way around, and perhaps constantinople would have fallen much sooner. Even if the mongols did lose much ground in a short amount of time they would probably have the forces there to secure some territory in East europe for a while and would have been a barrier to trade to the west. Who knows, that may have preciptated the western europeans to explore the world much earlier to get around the huge mongol empire.

Now imagine if the mongols went through the khyber pass and took india, well i guess the mughals already did that, but that would be a very huge empire.
May 10th, 2006  
Ted
 
 
I just rolled into this thread and I can't make up my mind. A lot that I read makes sense. The trouble I have is that the Middle Ages are from 500 ad to about 1500 ad. In this time you saw the decline of the Mongols, the rise and absolute power of the Ottomans/ Saracens and Moors in the Middle East and Northern Africa. They were unbeatable until their defeat at the gates of Budpest and Poitiers. And after that it certainly the Europeans who held the scepter of military might. So I can't say any specific cultural zone held the power the entire Middle Ages...
May 10th, 2006  
G Connor
 
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Originally Posted by Ted
I just rolled into this thread and I can't make up my mind. A lot that I read makes sense. The trouble I have is that the Middle Ages are from 500 ad to about 1500 ad. In this time you saw the decline of the Mongols, the rise and absolute power of the Ottomans/ Saracens and Moors in the Middle East and Northern Africa. They were unbeatable until their defeat at the gates of Budpest and Poitiers. And after that it certainly the Europeans who held the scepter of military might. So I can't say any specific cultural zone held the power the entire Middle Ages...
You meant the gates of Vienna...right?
May 10th, 2006  
Ted
 
 
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Originally Posted by G Connor
You meant the gates of Vienna...right?
They were both besieged by the Turks, but both sieges were after 1500. So technically I was wrong, because 1500 is seen as the end of teh Middle Ages. But the point did come across.
June 23rd, 2006  
LeEnfield
 
 
If you trawl through history there are many civilisations that could hold this title. There were the Egyptians, Persians, Greeks, Romans, Chinese , to name but a few, and all have left there mark on history.
June 26th, 2006  
WarMachine
 
 
I suppose power is very fleeting then since no one is all powerful for more than a century on average, the gods are fickle you know.