Could USA defeat USSR before the WW2 begun?? - Page 3




 
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November 24th, 2004  
Kirill K
 
Yes i agree with that statement.
November 24th, 2004  
Darcia
 
However I would think around 1930 the Soviets would have been able to go agianst America and win however around 1935 they defintly could
November 28th, 2004  
airmanpatroler
 
 
If they were to have a war it would most definetly be fought in Alaska. And at the time they would have taken most of Alaska due to the fact we had little ways in means of transportation to get there, but the American people would mobilize and would most likely force USSR out of Alaska and force them to a peace treaty.
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November 28th, 2004  
Darcia
 
Not true, a Rode was consturcted in WW2 from Americas to Alaska, going through Canada to conect seven American Bases along the way.

Interesting Fact Japan caught 3 American islands wich were Alaskan Land, However it was gotten back of course.
November 28th, 2004  
Monk
 
Hey, first post here so I hope i dont bring down anyones wrath. And do forgive spelling mistakes Just try not to shoot me down too badly ok

As usual, the answer is always more grey than black and white, but IMHO I believe the US would have most definately lost, and badly, if the war was fought on russian soil.

Size of forces aside, the USSR had, in the 30's been at the fore front of mechanized developement and were already developing the weapons and resources which aided them in winning vs the Werhmacht. Their developement of mechanized tactics were also ahead of most nations.

Fair enough that Stalin had a fit and the mechanized elements of the red army were put on the back burner just prior to Barbarossa, we've seen how quickly that was remedied and the formation of tank armies became the norm.

The massive human and materail resources available to the USSR would also be a deciding factor, as the black soil regions and caucasus oilfields were not threatened by Germany and were totally available for the ruthless mobilisation we have all learnt about.

Sorry i cant give too many examples, no access to my library at the moment

"If they were to have a war it would most definetly be fought in Alaska. And at the time they would have taken most of Alaska due to the fact we had little ways in means of transportation to get there, but the American people would mobilize and would most likely force USSR out of Alaska and force them to a peace treaty."

Soviet ability in winter fighting, would tip the balance infavour of USSR here I believe. The US would mobilise, yes though i do still think the USSR would have the numbers in the end. I'm not sure how effectively each would resupply due to natural obstacles for both sides.
November 28th, 2004  
Darcia
 
If they had landed in Alaska they would have had to send troops through Canada, if they sent troops through Canada they would invade Canada, if they Invaded Canada they would make the UK mad, who still had a majority control over the world at that time. So if they had made it to Alaksa they till have to go through Canada to get troops in. And that would be a horrible mistake.
November 28th, 2004  
godofthunder9010
 
 
Going through Canada is the ONLY way to win a quick victory for the USSR and a pretty smart one actually. Pissing off the UK in the process? Well, lets be honest. The USSR and USA were the most unlikely 2 nations to go to war of any 2 nations on earth prior to 1939 so the whole scenario is mostly in the rhelm of fantasy. But okay, bring the UK into the scenario -- they wouldn't have been in any position to stop the USSR from rolling right through Canada in into the USA. If the war continues thereafter as a UK vs USSR scenario, the two sides are are in absolutely terrible position to actually attack each other. Anyone care to tell me where the front line might be? The Royal Navy isn't in any position to threaten the Soviets ... maybe in North America.
November 29th, 2004  
Darcia
 
The UK still owned land around the USSR I believe, some in China and a little in the Middle East with some troops in iraq I believe. They would have been close to the USSR.


Howevere if the USSr did manage to ge past the Ice that seperates Alaska with the Russia, and did manage to get troops and stuff thier at that point in time it would have taken a while to get enough to invade Canada and then make it to the USA.
November 29th, 2004  
airmanpatroler
 
 
Well the only logical place to attack the USA is Alaska. and they probably would go no further than that in a war vs USA.
November 29th, 2004  
Darcia
 
Welkl that wouldn't be much of a war. America could send more supplies in from the Soviets and the Brit's and the Canadians would probably help just to defend thier own land.