China's aircraft carrier under construction - Page 3




 
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January 10th, 2005  
c/Commander
 
 
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Originally Posted by Armychef
It could be that with India and Pakistan both being nuke powers and India having two of her own carriers(aging ww2 refits mind you) and trying to build more, China may feel the need to flex some muscle regionally. I seriously doubt that one baby carrier is going to do much against us presently. If thng begin to get real messy in the middle east sucking up lots of naval resources then I wouldn't be suprised if they tried to take Taiwan. But I'd bet that they might find a few SSNs in the way



I knew the Chinese were buying up all the scrap steel that they can find. This explains some of that.
Were you meaning steel for the carrier or for the submarine...'cause if you meant the sub...that's the USS Seawolf (SSN 21).
January 11th, 2005  
AsianAmerican
 
 
First off that picture of the carrier isn't a Chinese Carrier. Second if somehow they are making a carrier can I please have a link to where u got all the specs Mr. thread starter? Thanks
January 11th, 2005  
Armychef
 
Actually I was under the impression that most of the steel was going into the manufacture of trucks and cars rather than naval assets. I was just saying that with the fact that they are buying up shitloads of scrap steel that they could be building ships with it instead.

I just posted the Seawolf pict because I mentioned attack subs hunting a chinese carrier lead invasion force to tawain.
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January 11th, 2005  
Sexybeast
 
na..China won't have aircraft carrier in recent years

even if they got one, they dont have enough power to built a whole standard fleet and protect their carrier,

china's big shots are subs and maybe S-30s to fight against other nations' carriers
January 11th, 2005  
Whispering Death
 
 
Did some research and it turns out that first off the pic is a fake. Secondly there is no sound evidence of the Chinese building a carrier and even if they where, most likely they would retrofit an old Russian one than make one from scratch.
January 11th, 2005  
rocco
 
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Originally Posted by Whispering Death
Did some research and it turns out that first off the pic is a fake. Secondly there is no sound evidence of the Chinese building a carrier and even if they where, most likely they would retrofit an old Russian one than make one from scratch.
replicate...


anyhow, small carriers are the way of the future... less target.
January 11th, 2005  
Sexybeast
 
well, i think china has the money and tech to build one now,
but it really not worth it, to build a target for U.S airforce right?
January 11th, 2005  
CABAL
 
 
Quite simple. Ever since World War II, there was a need for carrier based planes to fend off incoming enemy aircraft and will provide vital protection for the fleet. And now, Carrier based planes provide air support and bombing runs against enemy targets.

But the Carrier seems to be outmoded as like the Battleship during the earlier years of World War II, but not yet.
January 11th, 2005  
SwordFish_13
 
 
Hi,

Here is a Very Good Article About Chinese Aircraft Carrier Project ......

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At present China has very little in the way of credible power-projection capabilities, though China can already project military forces superior to those that South-east Asian countries could deploy to the South China Sea. The PLA Navy has studied the acquisition of an aircraft carrier since the mid-1980s, and there are persistant reports that China has plans to launch a 40,000 ton class aircraft carrier by 2010, though these reports remain unsubstantiated and appear to based on woefully inadequate analysis and information.
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At that time, China had planned to finish the first aircraft carrier by 2000, but the plan was delayed repeatedly due to lack of carrier technology. Eventually it was decided to advance the carrier program in two stages.
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Phase 1 - Study Foreign Technology

During the first stage, China has bought several scrapped carriers from overseas in order to study the parts.

In 1985 China purchased the 17,000-ton former Royal Australian Navy aircraft carrier, HMAS Melbourne as scrap, and she was finally broken up in Dalian, China. According to some reports stated that as late as 1994 the ship was still in existence at Guangzhou, China, being studied by Chinese naval architects. The hulk had been stripped of all useful equipment prior to sale, but Australian Navy sources reportedly said that the Chinese were particularly interested in the ship's steam catapult - even requesting the operating manuals. It is said that a navy unit has built a simulated flying deck at its airport in northern China. The design of the Melbourne was taken for reference. Reportedly, the airborne troops of the navy have used the deck to carry out numerous flying tests. The improved deck adopted the optical landing system designed and developed by China.
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Phase 2 - New Construction

China appears to have chosen to build a Chinese aircraft carrier, rather than purchasing one off-the-shelf. Although China’s long-term goal is to acquire one or more aircraft carriers and it has an active program to develop a design, it remains unclear whether Beijing has reached a firm decision on the kind of carrier it will have, given budget constraints and naval funding priorities.

The PLA Navy will need to overcome several large obstacles before it can field an operational aircraft carrier and associated supporting ships. First, the PLA Navy does not have any carrier-capable aircraft. Second, although substantially improved in these areas, it still needs more and better antisubmarine and antiaircraft capabilities to protect a carrier and its supporting vessels. Finally, to have adequate power projection capabilities from the use of a carrier, it is preferable to have more than one carrier so that a carrier is assuming the mission at sea at all times. Thus, many experts have concluded that an operational aircraft carrier does not appear to be in China's near future, even though China is funding research and development and training officers in aircraft carrier operations.
Source


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January 11th, 2005  
CABAL
 
 
Excellent article. Perhaps it can clarify things here.