Can you mourn over a killed terrorist? - Page 2




 
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Boots
 
February 20th, 2015  
Kesse81
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JOC
He was a murderous thug. Services and memorials should be keep private considering his murdering of unknown innocents. You would think his family would be ashamed.
So therefore, as a family, you should be held liable for an adult family member's actions?
And if your child commits a serious crime, itīs perfectly acceptable that you should be met with contempt, because you could just have brought up your child properly.
February 20th, 2015  
Yossarian
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kesse81
So therefore, as a family, you should be held liable for an adult family member's actions?
And if your child commits a serious crime, itīs perfectly acceptable that you should be met with contempt, because you could just have brought up your child properly.

You beat me to it,

Although from the outside looking in we see his actions, he should be held accountable even in death for his crimes. And for his crimes I hold nothing but malice. These actions are inhumane and overall disgusting.

But from loved one's point of view, they most likely remember him by name, not political or mental motivations. And remember his loss moreover than the circumstances of his death.

That's a difference between a loved one and a stranger in terms of perspective and we all in some extend share that.
February 20th, 2015  
JOC
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kesse81
So therefore, as a family, you should be held liable for an adult family member's actions?
And if your child commits a serious crime, itīs perfectly acceptable that you should be met with contempt, because you could just have brought up your child properly.


I would expect most families would feel terrible if it were one of their own. I’m not saying they cannot mourn the lost sole, but to do so in private. Otherwise whether intentionally or not they are essentially condoning his actions, his death over that of the others. Of course we are all pawns of the media when it comes to these things.
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Boots
February 20th, 2015  
Queensman
 
 
The question I ask is were his family aware of his state of mind and had any suspicion of what he was doing?
If so it makes a big difference in the way I look at the mourning of their son.
A few years ago I saw a Lebanese woman in an interview saying how proud she was of her son who had died in a suicide attack against the Israelis.
I said to myself wtf? If they loved their son more than, or equal to the way they loved their God then they would of prevented him from making the attack.
So if the parents were aware then they are just as guilty, if they knew and let their love of God be above that of their son then they should be ashamed.
Failing that if he had shown all signs of being normal and were not aware of it, then the show of love can be understood, even if it's in incredible bad taste.
February 20th, 2015  
JOC
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Queensman
The question I ask is were his family aware of his state of mind and had any suspicion of what he was doing?
If so it makes a big difference in the way I look at the mourning of their son.
A few years ago I saw a Lebanese woman in an interview saying how proud she was of her son who had died in a suicide attack against the Israelis.
I said to myself wtf? If they loved their son more than, or equal to the way they loved their God then they would of prevented him from making the attack.
So if the parents were aware then they are just as guilty, if they knew and let their love of God be above that of their son then they should be ashamed.
Failing that if he had shown all signs of being normal and were not aware of it, then the show of love can be understood, even if it's in incredible bad taste.
The point here is publicly for all the world to see (Media anyways) or privately where they could mourn his passing without the fanfare. Likely they loved the their son and have every right to morn his passing in private. But why make a spectacle of it? One would think that most parents of a serial killer, terrorists, mass murderer, etc. would be abhorred despite their love.
February 20th, 2015  
Kesse81
 
When asked why people, who have no relation to the deceased's killerīs family, are placing flowers, most respond; to show that we do not blame his family or the Muslim faith for this atrocity.

Isn’t that in the Christian spirit?

His father has stated that he knew that his son was not one of God's best children.
But he says that he was not aware that he was ready to commit such a crime. He just thought that his son was an angry young man like so many others at that age.
February 20th, 2015  
JOC
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kesse81
When asked why people, who have no relation to the deceased's killerīs family, are placing flowers, most respond; to show that we do not blame his family or the Muslim faith for this atrocity.

Isn’t that in the Christian spirit?
The Christian spirit would be to forgive him for his sins, but not to glorify the sin. Do the flowers glorify the sin, I really don't know? Personally (my opinion) I think it's best to be keep private. Send the flowers to his family.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kesse81
His father has stated that he knew that his son was not one of God's best children.
But he says that he was not aware that he was ready to commit such a crime. He just thought that his son was an angry young man like so many others at that age.
He sounds like a man who feels very bad about the situation concerning his son.
 


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