Biden blames US allies in Middle East for rise of ISIS - Page 2




 
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November 10th, 2014  
Yossarian
 
 
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Originally Posted by Army0413
IS don't win if these are involded in war against ISIS.

IS will have whole Middle East they do no can because they must lose of states of Israel, Libanon, Turkey, Syria, Iran, Saudi Arabia etc. No mouslims states in whole Middle East because there all ready mouslims there and with democraty.

We lives in 21th century and not in near 15th or 14th in koran story but in west and asia it's 21st century. The koran don't understanding the bibel. We live in 21th century but it's only in last of 2014.

2015 next year.

God and Jesus is two powerful in bibel.

Edit. Democraty is important after Hitler Germany wars. Their lose against USA, Sovjet and UK.

I think , and this is coming from an Fellow Christian it would be wise to look at this issue from a perspective that places common human rights and international law above any personal religious beliefs. In the light of world affairs and statesmanship it's ok to have individual values such as religious morals, however sometimes it's best to keep them on a personal level when dealing with social problems, this helps to ensure social groups who believe different than you do are not overlooked when dealing with their needs as well.

A few key points is that even in the primarily Muslim countries of Iraq and Syria, and now Lebanon for example are also home to many faiths and social demographics. Many minorities who are directly displaced by ISIS or under threat in these countries may not want to live under Christian values either so it is prudent that we understand this and don't let those personal beliefs override preserving their rights to do so and to a peaceful co existence. Especially with mutual respect to the Muslim majority not only from Christians but all walks of believe, even atheists.


When you force values on people a majority of the time it backfires. And right now it would only agitate this conflict and isolate those who are in need of humanitarian aide.

This is a regional social issue, not a religious one. ISIS's fervor seems to be a means to consolidate power, more over a tool than anything else by Bagdadhi to hold the group together.
November 10th, 2014  
Army0413
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yossarian
I think , and this is coming from an Fellow Christian it would be wise to look at this issue from a perspective that places common human rights and international law above any personal religious beliefs. In the light of world affairs and statesmanship it's ok to have individual values such as religious morals, however sometimes it's best to keep them on a personal level when dealing with social problems, this helps to ensure social groups who believe different than you do are not overlooked when dealing with their needs as well.

A few key points is that even in the primarily Muslim countries of Iraq and Syria, and now Lebanon for example are also home to many faiths and social demographics. Many minorities who are directly displaced by ISIS or under threat in these countries may not want to live under Christian values either so it is prudent that we understand this and don't let those personal beliefs override preserving their rights to do so and to a peaceful co existence. Especially with mutual respect to the Muslim majority not only from Christians but all walks of believe, even atheists.


When you force values on people a majority of the time it backfires. And right now it would only agitate this conflict and isolate those who are in need of humanitarian aide.

This is a regional social issue, not a religious one. ISIS's fervor seems to be a means to consolidate power, more over a tool than anything else by Bagdadhi to hold the group together.
I must say Gud in swedish or Jesus to beleive on them. Can't beleving on right way bacause they never help me.

IS / ISIS is jihahdist as mouslims how never can win against Israel, Syria, Turkey and Iran if their goes in war against ISIS. Todays 25000 soldiers of ISIS in Iraq can't do nothing if their attack Iran how are strong enemy against IS.
November 10th, 2014  
Yossarian
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Army0413
I must say Gud in swedish or Jesus to beleive on them. Can't beleving on right way bacause they never help me.

IS / ISIS is jihahdist as mouslims how never can win against Israel, Syria, Turkey and Iran if their goes in war against ISIS. Todays 25000 soldiers of ISIS in Iraq can't do nothing if their attack Iran how are strong enemy against IS.

This same thought process was applied two years ago when the group was numbered only a few hundred militant fighters. Then they took Mosul. I think from a political and many officials say from a military standpoint under estimating their ability to destabilize the region would be foolish. Let alone the far reaching consequences simply ignoring the problem leading to further displacement of refugess, splinter groups forwarding violence into neighboring countries, along with a laundry list of other possible blow back scenarios.

It's not exactly a win lose boxing match scenario. If you stiff arm them they most likely won't just go away, rather break down and re kindle the ideology elsewhere and come back. This time we must the social ills that led to them coming to existence in the first or else we maybe dealing with new evolutions of ISIS and similar groups in this region for years to come.
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November 10th, 2014  
Army0413
 
Middle east is stronger than central and south America and Africa and maybe Europe but not Asia because theres strong countries of Japan, China, Thailand, Taiwan, South Korea and North Korea and Philippines and Malaysia.

November 14th, 2014  
Army0413
 
Iran have big reserve and can take northern Africa there IS and ISIS are to.

1,8 million reserve for Iran - Global Power 2014.

But ISIS are smaller troops an Egypt and Etiopian armies.

Not the democraty nation's it's wrong with it's the islamic state(IS) are wrong for alla countries in northern Africa and Middle east. They are against democraty. USA and France bomb in northern Iraq were ISIS are.
 


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