Army or Marines? - Page 8




 
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May 3rd, 2005  
bbos
 
So is it generally better to join as an enlisted and attend OCS afterwards?
May 3rd, 2005  
Charge 7
 
 
The post that originated 03's and my comments has been deleted apparently.

Better? Well my own opinion says it is. You gain alot by knowing how the troops feel about things by being one yourself for awhile. If it were up to me, I'd make it a rule that all officers must have spent at least two years enlisted prior to being commissioned. However, as I said earlier, service time enlisted would be a useful tool in making a fine officer and is no guarantee that you will become one. By far the majority of officers never spent a day enlisted and nearly every one is a good officer and many become great officers. Bad officers occur among both mustangs and non-mustangs. Thankfully they are few and far between.
May 3rd, 2005  
03USMC
 
 
I agree with Charge 110%. I served under several Mustangs and LDO's. For the most part their being prior enlisted didn't come into play. You wouldn't even know they were Prior Enlisted unless you saw their ribbons during an Alpha Inspection. Or in the case of some LDO's their age gave it away .

Good Officers are Good regardless of their back ground. Bad officers are Bad regardless of their back ground.

I served with very few Bad Officers.
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October 29th, 2005  
mitch
 

Topic: Army or Marines


Im not sure weather I want to join the army or the marines.

Benefits and money arent important to me. I just want to do something I can be proud of. I want to be the best trained and strongest soldier I can be. I want to be infantry in either the army or the marines, Im most interested in anti-tank. I also want to have the best equipment availble to me if I had to fight. Also im not sure if I would like to be stuck on a ship for months at a time. But I also dont like the idea of drill instructors or army or marines being soft or worried about being to hard on people or not being PC. Also what are some of the advantages and disadvantages of each (not counting health benefits and pay)?

Which branch do you think is right for me?
October 31st, 2005  
03USMC
 
 
Thats a decision you have to make. Any advantages or disadvantages will be up to you and how you view particular situations.

As far as health benefits pay etc. Doesn't matter they are the same across the board for all services.
March 21st, 2007  
Bitmapman
 

Topic: Army or Marines?


Alright, I know I told you before that I'd be attending the Army ROTC program at Temple, but I found out a nearby campus has NROTC, granting me to option to go into the Marine Corps instead if I'd like to.

I still fully intend to be an Infantry Officer regardless of branch.

I'm thinking I may prefer the Marines, due to their infamous warrior ethos and noted hardcore attitude. They really seem like my kind of outfit.

There are a few things that bug me a little bit about it, though. NROTC seems a lot more focused on the Navy, and I'm a little worried about being lumped in with the Navy training when all I would really want would be Marine training.

Has anyone gone through NROTC Marine Option? Is it a pain to have to go through the same training as the Navy guys for the first two years? Also, how difficult is it to get the Marine Option? The last thing I want is to go into this intent on the Marines, and then to not get the Marine option.

So, as you can see, I'm thinking Army ROTC might offer more the kind of classes I'm looking for. Then again, it may very well be worth the N in NROTC in order to get with the Marines.

The Army, however, does have the Rangers, who are very cool. I'm concerned, though, that I may not make it into the Rangers, especially since I'm trying for officer.

So which branch do you think I should join?
March 21st, 2007  
PJ24
 
 
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Originally Posted by Bitmapman
So which branch do you think I should join?
Honestly, infantry is infantry. Marine Corps or Army, you're going to find the "warrior ethos" and "hardcore attitude" in the units.

No one can tell you which branch they think you should join, and anybody that would probably lacks experience. This is a choice only you can make. Do research, ask questions and see which one appeals to you most.
March 22nd, 2007  
tomtom22
 
 

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Originally Posted by PJ24
Honestly, infantry is infantry. Marine Corps or Army, you're going to find the "warrior ethos" and "hardcore attitude" in the units.

No one can tell you which branch they think you should join, and anybody that would probably lacks experience. This is a choice only you can make. Do research, ask questions and see which one appeals to you most.
Very, very good advice.
Remember, only you will have to live with your choice.
March 22nd, 2007  
bulldogg
 
 
And take this for what its worth, if you don't think you'll make it through RIP or Ranger school... you WONT. No one else can tell you what is the right fit for you. My advice is to find a recruiter or an active duty service member in the branch you are thinking of after researching it on your own so you don't waste their time and then ask them intelligent questions about what its like and what to expect and then see what fits you.
March 22nd, 2007  
Bitmapman
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldogg
And take this for what its worth, if you don't think you'll make it through RIP or Ranger school... you WONT. No one else can tell you what is the right fit for you. My advice is to find a recruiter or an active duty service member in the branch you are thinking of after researching it on your own so you don't waste their time and then ask them intelligent questions about what its like and what to expect and then see what fits you.
I'm sorry, this was also a fairly stupid question, in retrospect.

It's a very difficult decision, and one that will pretty much map out the remainder of my life.

I don't know what I was hoping for. No magic answer will float to me, and I know that.

Upon rereading my post, I've realized that I have indirectly insulted Army Infantry via omission. I didn't even mention them. Sorry! Anyone who joins the military has my total respect.

I will definitely do myself some more research on the matter.

But, there are still a couple questions in my mind about the differences between the two branches.

In the USMC, how much time on average would one expect to spend aboard a ship? Keep in mind I'm talking about infantry. If the Marines spend months of their time couped up aboard a ship, they may not be for me. I am a big guy, about six foot five, and I love big wide open spaces. As in, not the interior of a ship.

And, not to be rude or presumptuous, are the Marines really all they're played up to be? I know their whole thing on the commercials and information on their website is that they are the best; The Few, The Proud, The Marines. But are they really that much better?

Please don't see this in any way as belittlement of the Corps, I am honestly curious. Do keep in mind that my perspective is totally civilian, and I am asking these questions hoping for an affirmation of the Marines' reputation.

Because, if that is the case, and the Marines really are the best, then perhaps the unpleasant time spent aboard a ship would be worth it.

Thanks,
Luke