Look I'm definately not the most qualified to be saying this, I would trust A Can of Man and PJ on this one but do you honestly think that if you go into the Marines, everything will be magically ok?

You should take another look at your situation and as someone pointed out, it may be your unit. If you want to go USMC Infantry why don't you go Army Infantry (though with some trades its hard to switch and all that b******t but you get my point). You're already in the Army, to switch to the USMC would be very difficult and I think you would end up having the same problems as you did in the Army.

Bottom line, make the best out of the Army. Switch units, switch trades, try something new, whatever, but the USMC won't fix your problems.

Actually on that note, odds are if you joined the USMC, the things that were "ok" now might be far worse off!

1) Far more difficult promotion
2) Far less perks

If getting strippers' phone numbers is your thing though, the USMC is THE way to go!

Originally Posted by Cdt Matteo

Look I'm definately not the most qualified to be saying this, I would trust A Can of Man and PJ on this one but do you honestly think that if you go into the Marines, everything will be magically ok?

A Can of Man might not be a good source, as he has never been a US Marine or in the US military and lives in Korea.

Originally Posted by A Can of Man

BS.
Only the Army thinks that Army boot camp is as hard as US Marine boot camp.

Negative. I had 3 drills who came from the Marines. Use some logic here. Why would they train the Army to a lower standard when they are doing 80% of the fighting. Hate to break it to you but the Army is in the worst areas, take baghdad for example. Have fun with the idea though.

I'l preface my remarks with the fact that I was never a Marine. I had 6 years in the Navy & 21 in the Army.

Having said that I personally know of 3 Marines that are either trying to get into the Army or are new in the Corps (1+year) & already planning on going Army as a reenlistment. The reasons are the same - they want the opportunities that the Army provides. This is from them, not me. I don't know schitt about it. Each loves the Corps but would like to get something more out of their service. All are planning on making it a career toward retirement with a minimum of 20 years, hopefully more.

None of these three know each other & all have said the same thing.

Take it with a grain of salt but I thought I'd pass it on.

CDT Matteo,
Chugspunk likes to disagree with me regardless of what I say and as for Big_Z, I did say that only the Army truly believes their training standards are just as high did I not? Actually, let me tell you the real reason: NUMBERS. The higher your standards, the less people you will get. The less people you pick, the higher you can set the bar. And you are right, the Army very well could be doing 80% of the fighting because there are simply more of them. If you had to build an Army of 200 people, you could get the best and the brightest. If you needed 2 million, your bar just cannot be that high. You are right Big_Z, use some logic. If the US Marines expanded to the size of that of the Army, I have NO doubt at all that the standards would drop as well. Which is why it cannot be that big. But that does not mean every unit has to be small and at a very high standard or else you just will not have enough troops to secure areas that have been taken. On the same note, Rangers are no doubt at a higher standard than most Marines. Again, this is due to selectivity. It is not really a crass knock on the Army. It is simply universal.

As for MSG Glenn, he is precisely right.
Every Marine that has either gone over to Army or has planned to go over to the Army (including myself) has gone because they wanted to get more out of their service. More opportunities, more chances for promotion, etc. With very few exceptions, these folks still like the Corps but realize that due to various factors the time to part and go to the Army has come. Often it involves family commitments, certain injuries (so they move to an MOS that requires less physical activity) or sometimes when they feel they are simply not good enough.
Before anyone starts going over the edge, yes there are jobs in the Marines that are not very physical but again, there are not as many spots as in the Army.

Originally Posted by A Can of Man

CDT Matteo,
Chugspunk likes to disagree with me regardless of what I say and as for Big_Z, I did say that only the Army truly believes their training standards are just as high did I not? Actually, let me tell you the real reason: NUMBERS. The higher your standards, the less people you will get. The less people you pick, the higher you can set the bar. And you are right, the Army very well could be doing 80% of the fighting because there are simply more of them. If you had to build an Army of 200 people, you could get the best and the brightest. If you needed 2 million, your bar just cannot be that high. You are right Big_Z, use some logic. If the US Marines expanded to the size of that of the Army, I have NO doubt at all that the standards would drop as well. Which is why it cannot be that big. But that does not mean every unit has to be small and at a very high standard or else you just will not have enough troops to secure areas that have been taken. On the same note, Rangers are no doubt at a higher standard than most Marines. Again, this is due to selectivity. It is not really a crass knock on the Army. It is simply universal.

As for MSG Glenn, he is precisely right.
Every Marine that has either gone over to Army or has planned to go over to the Army (including myself) has gone because they wanted to get more out of their service. More opportunities, more chances for promotion, etc. With very few exceptions, these folks still like the Corps but realize that due to various factors the time to part and go to the Army has come. Often it involves family commitments, certain injuries (so they move to an MOS that requires less physical activity) or sometimes when they feel they are simply not good enough.
Before anyone starts going over the edge, yes there are jobs in the Marines that are not very physical but again, there are not as many spots as in the Army.

Keep telling yourself that. You have never served in the US military. You are a little to niave I think, don't believe everything you see on TV. Take a look at the Vietnam war. The Marines were getting ****ed up and the Army was pulling them out. The training is the same, the mentality is different.

Originally Posted by Big_Z

Keep telling yourself that. You have never served in the US military. You are a little to niave I think, don't believe everything you see on TV. Take a look at the Vietnam war. The Marines were getting ****ed up and the Army was pulling them out. The training is the same, the mentality is different.

Sure...
I am taking whatever you say with a spoon (not just a grain) of salt. You thought Special Ops Missions was realistic. So obviously I am not the one with problems regarding believing what I see on TV.
I think KJs avatar pretty much sums it up for you.

Your breaking my heart here. Keep pretending to be an American.

So much for plurality of thought.
Believing that US Marine training on average is tougher than US Army training on average = UnAmerican???
You know, I try to cut you some slack, but you really are an idiot of epic proportions.