Aircraft Carrier is obsolete as a modern Weapon - Page 12




 
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March 27th, 2010  
AVON
 

Topic: Re: Aircraft Carrier is obsolete as a modern Weapon


Until someone or some navy figures out how to provide air protection for fleet elements, the carrier will be needed. Any surface fleet being only able to shoot down the incoming missiles as they approach and not being able to shoot down any of the launch aircraft will loose to attacking aircraft. Only a carrier can prevent this situation.
One a carrier can provide ECM aircraft (EA-6, EA-18, etc.) and AEW aircraft (E-2) needed to also help protect surface fleet units.
March 28th, 2010  
wolfen
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AVON
Until someone or some navy figures out how to provide air protection for fleet elements, the carrier will be needed. Any surface fleet being only able to shoot down the incoming missiles as they approach and not being able to shoot down any of the launch aircraft will loose to attacking aircraft. Only a carrier can prevent this situation.
One a carrier can provide ECM aircraft (EA-6, EA-18, etc.) and AEW aircraft (E-2) needed to also help protect surface fleet units.
And the Aircraft carrier is currently being redesigned, the one they are building right now is the LAST NIMITZ CLASS, the next generation will scare the hell out of any enemy who see's on off their coast.
March 29th, 2010  
c/Commander
 
 
Last Nimitz is built and in commission. The next class, Ford-class, is being built right now.
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March 29th, 2010  
Chukpike
 
"The CVN 21 Program is the future aircraft carrier replacement program for USS Enterprise and CVN 68, or Nimitz class aircraft carriers. Gerald R. Ford (CVN 78) was ordered from Northrop Grumman Shipbuilding Newport News on Sept. 10, 2008, and is scheduled to be delivered in 2015. The Gerald R. Ford Class will be the premier forward asset for crisis response and early decisive striking power in a major combat operation."



http://www.navy.mil/navydata/fact_di...0&tid=250&ct=4

Artist rendition:
http://www.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=30854
December 21st, 2011  
mohamedwa
 
the carriers dont go alone in battle...but with some smaller vessels and a submarine as well ( as the USS enterprise for an example ).....its a big target yes...but a big target that can kick ass
December 22nd, 2011  
BritinAfrica
 
 
If it weren't for Royal Navy carriers, the Falklands would be called the Malvinas today.
December 22nd, 2011  
Yossarian
 
 
To be honest for now, I think the biggest threat to an carrier is spending cuts and dwindling defense budgets.
December 23rd, 2011  
mmarsh
 
 
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Originally Posted by Yossarian
To be honest for now, I think the biggest threat to an carrier is spending cuts and dwindling defense budgets.
The 2012 Defense budget is the highest since WWII.
http://articles.businessinsider.com/...udget-requests


...and that's a bad thing.


To get back to the topic, a modern day ASM (like the Kh-41) costs about $1 million. A Modern Aircraft Carrier over a $2 Billion. Now considering that a single missile hit can utterly pulverize a large ship and the fact that most of Americans possible enemies (China, Iran, North Korea) all dozens of such weapons and that they are easily obtainable on the black market how wise is it for us to be building billion dollar barges filled with high octane fuel and munitions?
December 23rd, 2011  
Yossarian
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mmarsh
The 2012 Defense budget is the highest since WWII.
http://articles.businessinsider.com/...udget-requests


...and that's a bad thing.


To get back to the topic, a modern day ASM (like the Kh-41) costs about $1 million. A Modern Aircraft Carrier over a $2 Billion. Now considering that a single missile hit can utterly pulverize a large ship and the fact that most of Americans possible enemies (China, Iran, North Korea) all dozens of such weapons and that they are easily obtainable on the black market how wise is it for us to be building billion dollar barges filled with high octane fuel and munitions?

Gotta love our military industrial complex, I wonder how much more of those appropriations are going to veterans progams and to support the troops families....

Not new gear for "unforseen threats".

Shiney new Northrop Litoral combat programs while the pot holes on Central Avenue have reached crater sized proportions.... : /


Ah a thread for another day.
December 23rd, 2011  
George
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yossarian
Shiney new Northrop Litoral combat programs while the pot holes on Central Avenue have reached crater sized proportions.... : /
People seem to forget that the Fed. Govt. isn't supposed to be a be all/do all entity. It is the job of the Fed. Govt. to defend the country, not fix potholes.
 


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