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1. Lithuania had historical beef with Poland regarding its junior role in the Commonwealth, they basically believed Poland "stole" their glory even though Poland was the sole reason Lithuania survived past XV century.Poland used the situation in 1938 to bully and demand cocessions from her neighbours.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1938_Polish_ultimatum_to_Lithuania
I doubt if Lithuania and Czechoslovakia thought Poland was a good neighbour!
Sounds just like how the Nazis thought of the Poles. Perhaps you recognise the irony?
2. Czechoslovakia took these lands when Poles were busy fighting Russia in 1920, the idea of getting them back was OK, the timing was bad.
3. Except that Nazis called Poland backwards even though Poles built their first university a full 100 years before one was built in Germany while Ukraine was a war torn steppe without any nation, with culture in shambles.
Also Poles did not conquer Ukraine they were welcomed since they brought with them all the good things of civilisation and a security of a powerfull army, in fact the Ukrainian elite polonised so quickly a hundred years later the entire elite of Ukraine considered themselves Polish.
While you could find analogies in rhetoric between statements of German Nazis in regards to Poles and Poles in regards to Ukrainians the first was totalitarian propaganda and the second is historical truth.
If you're interested in broader discussion i can create a new thread for you together with pictures and sources in "older and ancient" section or i invite you to discuss it on pm.
For now i stick to my point, Ukraine was a barren land, stripped by Mongols, Tartars and warring locals, Poland came over and provided both security and wealth, that Ukrainians woke up after 500 years and decided all the Polish cities, towns, palaces, factories etc should belong to them, well tough luck.
Even the most basic Google shows the folly of such a claim.
Example:
I'm sorry but you realise that Revyuk would later become a member of the UPA and is alleged to murder women and children? He was an ardent right winger so such books cannot be counted as a source.
Its like discussing "how evil the Jews are" basing your sources on Himmler.
Yes there was abuse of Ukrainians in pre war Poland, no there were no atrocities and people who would later become criminals murdering Poles are hardly a source to quote.