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November 10th, 2014  
tetvet
 

Topic: 1500 More


Obama to send 1500 more Americans to Iraq for what ? why to help train the Iraq military what else ? here is little more than a reinforced Battalion to help train a military force in the hundreds of thousands how does that equate ? the Iraqis have been fighting someone anyone for four thousand years and we're going to train them , the real purpose I think is for these people to keep an eye on Iraq's power structure .
November 12th, 2014  
MontyB
 
 
It takes a lot of coaches to get an army of 1 million to run away in step.
November 12th, 2014  
tetvet
 
I think this is a worse case scenario for the Americans in Iraq .
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November 17th, 2014  
Omar
 
It falls now to the americans to sort that cause they started it in the first place, They entered Iraq based on false reasons and lies, then they delevered It on a golden plate to Iran..

If Obama and his goverment really wants to solve the situation in iraq then they need to put a stop to Iran, they are the cause of all of this in the first place.
November 17th, 2014  
tetvet
 
The U.S. has two options get out and stay out or stay in and get real .
November 19th, 2014  
MikeP
 
 
Mission creep for lack of a better term. I think a lot of them will be for support and maintenance.

We are operating on a stupendous misconception.

Who ever thought you can fundamentally change a relatively ancient tribal culture in a any way.
Introduce Democracy to folks who have no concept of it.
Then drop things and leave, thanks to our inept and subjugated CIC.

Nobody with any sense ever thought we could just drop things and leave. They were all over ruled buy our Muslim master.

Precisely what does "get real" mean?
All those countries were more or less constructed or made up post WW1 in order to exploit the area by western powers for the oil.
Nomadic tribes suddenly found themselves contained in these drawn up areas and to maintain and govern them in ways they never heard of.
All their camels were slaughtered in a couple instances just to bring them into the mechanized world.
Somehow that was expected to work.

We never should have pulled out, but I'm not sure about how we actually can affect a whole culture.
November 19th, 2014  
tetvet
 
By getting real means dealing with the culture and the tribal structure , as you say the mid-east Countries are a European invention that have nothing to do with genuine borders ,tribes have no borders , how do you battle with a religion ? you can't , but you can battle with a culture , Islam is a culture .
November 21st, 2014  
Omar
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeP

Who ever thought you can fundamentally change a relatively ancient tribal culture in a any way.
Introduce Democracy to folks who have no concept of it.
Then drop things and leave, thanks to our inept and subjugated CIC.

Nobody with any sense ever thought we could just drop things and leave. They were all over ruled buy our Muslim master.

Precisely what does "get real" mean?
All those countries were more or less constructed or made up post WW1 in order to exploit the area by western powers for the oil.
Nomadic tribes suddenly found themselves contained in these drawn up areas and to maintain and govern them in ways they never heard of.
All their camels were slaughtered in a couple instances just to bring them into the mechanized world.
Somehow that was expected to work.

We never should have pulled out, but I'm not sure about how we actually can affect a whole culture.
wow dude really, what kind of history teacher did you have or where did you get your facts from?

No thanks to america iraq is back to the freaking stone age, we even started making cars, tanks, helecopters and many other things which has many industrial uses, america just invaded iraq and destroyed all of that, do a bit of research and you will see what iam talking about...

second, The way you talk about the people living in that area is disgusting, really. you just seem to be ignorant when it comes to the knowldge about that area...just get some real informations and facts dude...
November 21st, 2014  
Omar
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tetvet
By getting real means dealing with the culture and the tribal structure , as you say the mid-east Countries are a European invention that have nothing to do with genuine borders ,tribes have no borders , how do you battle with a religion ? you can't , but you can battle with a culture , Islam is a culture .
Islam is a culture? heheheh really?, Islam existed only for 1400 years but those cultures existed for faaaaaaaar longer than that and iam sure longer than 200 years...
November 21st, 2014  
tetvet
 
Islam as any idiot knows IS a Culture , Religion , Laws , Political Agenda , its all right there in the Quran , read it I DID , know your enemy and be happy .
 


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