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Whispering Death said:What's the armor like on a Leopard 2?
Don't know about the armor though the drawbacks where rather thin armour and the 105mm gun - the Leopard 2 should be heavier, better and thicker.
Whispering Death said:What's the armor like on a Leopard 2?
Not sure why Aussie díd not get a newer Leopard 2 such as A4 or A5. Not that M1A2 isn't good, don't get me wrong, but they already have older Leopards so for me it would be natrual to go for the Leopard 2 A5.
if a challenger has the longest confirm kil then the challenger 2 which has a far more new gun with better sights and the same fire control uint as the m1a1s then i think the challenger can not be seen hit a tank and be home for tea.The reason the M1's top dog is because the enemy is killed before he sees the M1.
Wham-size said:while no not if the challenger has the longest confirm tank to tank kill that puts your thorey out the window.
if a challenger has the longest confirm kil then the challenger 2 which has a far more new gun with better sights and the same fire control uint as the m1a1s then i think the challenger can not be seen hit a tank and be home for tea.The reason the M1's top dog is because the enemy is killed before he sees the M1.
and turbine make a seating duck they produce way to much heat thatcan give away our hide place.
and the challenger 2 armour is like the m1a2 du armour but has the advanages of being developt by the people how made 1st gen chobham so these guys kno were to put it.
AlexKall said:"The CH2 has a FCS similair to the one on the M1A1 not M1A2 SEP"
"the same fire control uint as the m1a1s"
Or did you refere to something else? FCS and FCU(?) would in my book imply on the same thing
I do see a flaw there, M1A1 is quite outdated when it comes to the FCS (not the upgraded M1A1) or am I wrong? I do expect M1A2 to have alot better FCS then M1A1 (just my assumtion but i think its correct). I would be supprised if the American company did not upgrade the FCS when alot of things seems to have been upgraded?
Cadet Seaman said:AlexKall said:"The CH2 has a FCS similair to the one on the M1A1 not M1A2 SEP"
"the same fire control uint as the m1a1s"
Or did you refere to something else? FCS and FCU(?) would in my book imply on the same thing
I do see a flaw there, M1A1 is quite outdated when it comes to the FCS (not the upgraded M1A1) or am I wrong? I do expect M1A2 to have alot better FCS then M1A1 (just my assumtion but i think its correct). I would be supprised if the American company did not upgrade the FCS when alot of things seems to have been upgraded?
The FCS is made by a Candian company and the baseline M1A1HC's have outdated FCS's, but the most recent M1A1's the M1A1HC-D and M1A1HC-AIM have updated FCS's (made at the same time as the M1A2 SEP so that they can be on the same technical level).
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