A Can of Man
Je suis aware
Pretty much the way it is.:-D
That's funny. Why don't you go visit Area 51, take photographs of all the "Restricted Access" areas and post it on our lovely forum?
Pretty much the way it is.:-D
The soldiers were named by the journalist. US reporters would do the same no matter what country the soldiers were from. You guys are acting like these military troops are spys or secret agents, they are not.
Their "cover" has not been blown.
I don't think that enemies worry to much about the names of people they are fighting.
Special Operations personnel from all tiers of SOF have their names (or claimed names) and photos released quite often by our own respective services.Captiva303 said:does the US government want the operators of delta force or whatever its called or the green berets or seals named and identified??
That's funny. Why don't you go visit Area 51, take photographs of all the "Restricted Access" areas and post it on our lovely forum?
So some thought until bounties were placed on their specifically named little heads, nice pictures and all. Our enemies care, esp. in regards to established guys in certain AOs that have a defined and detrimental presence. Happy to the majority? Not at all, but it does happen.
Special Operations personnel from all tiers of SOF have their names (or claimed names) and photos released quite often by our own respective services.
I don't think the photo is going to hurt our boy here, especially with their operational role.
Being watching way to many spy movies.
As far as "super soldiers" go, sometimes countries keep their war heroes home to parade around for PR. (Like NZ did). Sometimes the soldier wants to go back and do his job.
"death of someone like Apiata would kill morale in the States"
Not going to speak for all the military, but I believe the death of a comrade usually translates into stronger resolve on the part of those serving.
Don't much care what it does about civilian morale at home.
I think if you search "area 51" you will get about a gazillion hits.:-D
Yes it does, and should that man be a "warhero" in his own land.. You just encreased his chances of being tapped exponetially.
The US have very different rules about these kind of things.
Hell US soldiers walk around your nation IN uniform.
Take a second to think about your last statement there PJ.
This man can NOT work with ANY force that are stricter on PERSEC then what they are.
In the current capacity and role that´s fine.
I'm not sure what statement you want me to think about. I'm very familiar with PERSEC concerns/restrictions that go far beyond your average military member.
The US is no different with PERSEC/OPSEC in regards to our SOF than the NZSAS is. I'm not sure why you believe we're more lax. Conventional soldiers in any military have always been fair game for public photographs and are rarely singled out by name. SOF members, when caught on camera, are almost always and it's rarely a career ending thing. Just a bit embarrassing/annoying and an extremely costly purchase of beer for your comrades.
As for military members walking around in uniform at home, I'm unaware of any country's military that allows their members to show up to work in civilian attire.
This isn't the movies, there's not some super secret clandestine assignment out there where the the requirements are no photos taken or published in any forum in any way, EVER. It's just not how it works.
While no one wants their photo out there for all to see, the biggest issue in all of this is the information about his family. For no other reason than personal and professional lives should always be kept separate.
I'll rephrase my previous statement, I don't see this being a career ender for him given the NZSAS' operational role in the past, now or in the future.
I'm not sure what statement you want me to think about. I'm very familiar with PERSEC concerns/restrictions that go far beyond your average military member.
The US is no different with PERSEC/OPSEC in regards to our SOF than the NZSAS is. I'm not sure why you believe we're more lax. Conventional soldiers in any military have always been fair game for public photographs and are rarely singled out by name. SOF members, when caught on camera, are almost always and it's rarely a career ending thing. Just a bit embarrassing/annoying and an extremely costly purchase of beer for your comrades.
As for military members walking around in uniform at home, I'm unaware of any country's military that allows their members to show up to work in civilian attire.
This isn't the movies, there's not some super secret clandestine assignment out there where the the requirements are no photos taken or published in any forum in any way, EVER. It's just not how it works.
While no one wants their photo out there for all to see, the biggest issue in all of this is the information about his family. For no other reason than personal and professional lives should always be kept separate.
I'll rephrase my previous statement, I don't see this being a career ender for him given the NZSAS' operational role in the past, now or in the future.
in australia it was debated and discussed whether military members should be in public in uniform, they came to the conclusion that military membersl in public in uniform had a positive effect on the community.
however certain groups of members within the defence force have been encouraged to travel to and from work in civilian attire.
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Death's coming bitches.
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