Who would win in Hand-hand combat?

OK - since it has been raised we can put it to the test:smile:


Who wins , to the death - Leopard or Crocodile ?


Careful now.

Ah now that's a hard one. If the leopard was clever he'd lure the Croc away from the water, hide behind a convenient laundromat and wait till the Croc was all dried out then wear it like a jacket.
 
It was reckoned that an English bowman could put an arrow threw the slit in the visor of a knights helmet. There again every one was forced to train with a bow in England for many years and all other sports were banned. There used to be compulsory practice for hours on end after church, the bowman did so much practice that there was distortions to muscles and joints and there bodies can be identified becuase of this.

Ah, good point.
I can understand that.

Similar to Japan.
Their entire country was consumed by war for many years.
During that time, many martials arts were born, jujutsu (grapples & throws), kenjutsu (swordplay), ninjutsu (stealth), etc.

And what made these martial arts so deadly is the fact that, in those days, even at home, one's life was almost constantly faced by the threat of death; they'd train very often, to an extent that some people developed incredible skills.

So, in the case of a medieval bowman or knight, I guess the same could apply.
 
There a clip on youtube where a lioness fights a nile croc, the lioness drives it off...


This was actually a serious battle, even tho' somewhat off-topic. It is an interesting recorded conflict.

I really, really wanted to show the terrific and dramatic pics, but I was unable to access the article to make a link. However - this is the outcome of the fight to the finish between these ferocious aggressors:-

Express. 19 Jul 08. Jo Willey.

"It is believed to be the first documented attack by a leopard on a crocodile. Normally, a big cat would avoid such an armour -plated foe because the small amount of meat is just not worth the risk.

But this leopard was clearly driven by a formidable hunger as American photographer Hal Brindley was snapping hippos in a water-hole at Kruger National Park in South Africa.

Suddenly, out of the corner of eye, he saw a blurred flash leap into the water. After a fierce struggle, he was amazed to see the leopard drag the crocodile on to the dusty bank.

The thrashing crocodile began its fight for life, but the leopard clung on to its back with all its strength, digging in its claws and biting its adversary on its soft lower neck.

With its jaws snapping and trying to spin its body over to gain control, the crocodile fought on, clawing at the cat's stomach with its legs.

But the leopard persevered and sat on top of the crocodile to slowly suffocate it. He then dragged his prey out of sight and into the long grass. One predator left, bloodied but triumphant."


So there you have it, MM and Aussie Nick. Looks like you were both correct. Congratulations.
 
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And what made these martial arts so deadly is the fact that, in those days, even at home, one's life was almost constantly faced by the threat of death; they'd train very often, to an extent that some people developed incredible skills.

And a lot of these stories about the incredible skills were in fact bullsh*t.
 
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