Worst Current Issue Weapon(Rifle or Pistol) - Page 9




 
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June 20th, 2004  
SHERMAN
 
 
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The burst doesnt give you the opportunity to aim the second two shots
Well, the idea is that you keep steady and fire them all at your target...Your not sopposed to use each bullet for a diffrent target....


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with full auto you can aim as you fire
No, you cant. I dont know where you got that from, but when you aim while firing full auto it is very diffecult to hit. Im not saying this based on my limited experience, but based on countless soldiers I talked to. Not one told me that Auto is accurate.

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Yes, it wastes ammo, but as long as I don't have to pay for it...
Cute. But in an acctuall fire fight you will need to put as many of your bullets into the targets, not into the ground, walls, birds and civilians.
June 20th, 2004  
Lil Hulk 1988
 

Topic: Aiming in full auto...


Every really tried it?

Especially on a 8 pound M16?

When I entered the Corps, we still had the A1 model with the full auto selection, it was considered a fireteam squad automatic weapon. Its pitiful performance is the reason for the M249 introduction. I started as a pig handler and was glad to see the 249 enter service, 5 pounds lighter and the ammo was easier to haul, but it still was over 17 pounds so it is controllable.

Every gunner knows that you are taught 6 to 9 round bursts and the most aimable burst rate and saves your barrel for either the 240/60 or 249. The point is a rifleman is what it says, giving everyone full auto capability creates huge problems for the NCOs and Officers trying to control a fire fight, if you run out of ammo, you are dead.

Aimed, sustained fire is what wins firefights, not spraying bullets everywhere!!

Semper FI....
June 20th, 2004  
1217
 
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Originally Posted by sherman105
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Yes, it wastes ammo, but as long as I don't have to pay for it...
Cute. But in an acctuall fire fight you will need to put as many of your bullets into the targets, not into the ground, walls, birds and civilians.

Does dying because you're out of ammo count as paying?
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June 20th, 2004  
Marksman
 
 
we all know that ur gonna use burst fire in close qarters,but on 'distance' ur gonna use semi auto,whats the big deal....
June 24th, 2004  
Big_Z
 
 
My mom is a Captian dating a master sergant who trains infantry before they head off to war. He swears the m16 is the worst rifle ever made and the ak47 is the best, kinda odd isnt it He actually owns one im not sure how that works out. It stays on base i asked him where he bought it and i got no reply, Im guessing they dont care since he trains them. But he says you can throw it in the mud or leave it in a locker for 15 years and let it rust over and nomatter what it will always fire.
June 24th, 2004  
SHERMAN
 
 
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My mom is a Captian dating a master sergant who trains infantry before they head off to war. He swears the m16 is the worst rifle ever made and the ak47 is the best, kinda odd isnt it He actually owns one im not sure how that works out. It stays on base i asked him where he bought it and i got no reply, Im guessing they dont care since he trains them. But he says you can throw it in the mud or leave it in a locker for 15 years and let it rust over and nomatter what it will always fire.
Well, Id hardly say the M16 is the worst ever.....Ever had a look at Japanese rifles during WWII? How ever, the AK is a much more relaible weapon the the M16.
June 24th, 2004  
Lil Hulk 1988
 

Topic: Ak more reliable....


Very true, but the accuracy is an issue, but the way they are generally used, spray and area and hope to hit, it makes sense to have a reliable weapon.
June 25th, 2004  
RnderSafe
 
 
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Originally Posted by Big_Z
My mom is a Captian dating a master sergant who trains infantry before they head off to war. He swears the m16 is the worst rifle ever made and the ak47 is the best, kinda odd isnt it He actually owns one im not sure how that works out. It stays on base i asked him where he bought it and i got no reply, Im guessing they dont care since he trains them. But he says you can throw it in the mud or leave it in a locker for 15 years and let it rust over and nomatter what it will always fire.
So, anyone else notice the problem with this statement?
June 25th, 2004  
Uncle_Sam
 
 
M-16 was designed very well, it was concentrated on accuracy, and light weight. And was total sucess. In my opinion M-16's one of the best rifles ever produced, it would be the best just if it was a little bit more reliable....
Ak series are complete junk(when looking accuracy & weight, but it's very reliable. So 2-1 for M-16
June 25th, 2004  
Uncle_Sam
 
 
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Originally Posted by Big_Z
My mom is a Captian dating a master sergant who trains infantry before they head off to war. He swears the m16 is the worst rifle ever made and the ak47 is the best, kinda odd isnt it He actually owns one im not sure how that works out. It stays on base i asked him where he bought it and i got no reply, Im guessing they dont care since he trains them. But he says you can throw it in the mud or leave it in a locker for 15 years and let it rust over and nomatter what it will always fire.
Isn't that forbidden?