world trade center

Just another attempt by Hollywood to make money ...

I will not go see this movie. If the movie was true to the actual facts and faithfully followed the time line of what happened in a History Channel way I might go to see it.

What it is, was articulated by ROTC Boy: "this is just another attempt by Hollywood (sp) to sell tickets, and this crosses the line"

By warping the plot, Stone was not faithful to the history of 9/11, and as far as I am concerned he cheapened the sacrifices of all of the people that perished that awful day.

This was one of those times in history, that will long be in the memories of all Americans ... just as all Americans that were living at the time of Kennedy's assassination, everyone will remember where they were when the Twin Towers and The Pentagon were hit by civilian airliners. As far as Flight 93, anyone that has a patriotic bone in their bodies, will celebrate the bravery of those that tried to take back control of their flight from the suicidal terrorists and celebrate their sacrifice until the end of time.
 
I'll probably skip this one too, though I have heard sources that would usually be critical of Stone say that the film was pretty apolitical. My reasoning for not seeing the film is more for the purpose of not lining Stone's pockets any more than necessary than anything else. I have no desire to see him profit in general, much less over a film like this.

I'm still ticked off about Platoon...
 
I just saw the film. I thought it was an amazing film. It made me bust into tears. I think everyone should see it. The film in no way makes the folks a the World Trade Center look wrong. It simply shows heroes.
 
This sure took everyone by surprise. The real Marine was a black guy who was portrayed as a white guy. Embarrasing.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14350685/?GT1=8404

Mystery 9/11 rescuer reveals himself

Unknown Marine steps forward as one who helped save two NYPD cops.

NEW YORK - For years, authorities wondered about the identity of a U.S. Marine who appeared at the World Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001, helped find a pair of police officers buried in the rubble, then vanished.
Even the producers of the new film chronicling the rescue, "World Trade Center," couldn't locate the mystery serviceman, who had given his name only as Sgt. Thomas.
The puzzle was finally solved when one Jason Thomas, of Columbus, Ohio, saw a TV commercial for the new movie a few weeks ago as he relaxed on his couch.

His eyes widened as he saw two Marines with flashlights, hunting for survivors atop the smoldering ruins.
"That's us. That's me!" thought Thomas, who lived in Long Island during the attacks and now works as an officer in Ohio's Supreme Court.
Thomas, 32, hesitantly re-emerged last week to recount the role he played in the rescue of Port Authority police officers Will Jimeno and Sgt. John McLoughlin, who were entombed beneath 20 feet of debris when the twin towers collapsed.

Proof of identity
Back in New York to speak of his experience and visit family, Thomas provided the AP with photographs of himself at Ground Zero. As further proof of his identity, the movie's producer, Michael Shamberg, said Thomas and Jimeno have spoken by phone and shared details only the two of them would know.

Thomas, who had been out of the Marine Corps about a year, was dropping his daughter off at his mother's Long Island home when she told him planes had struck the towers.
He retrieved his Marine uniform from his truck, sped to Manhattan and had just parked his car when one of the towers collapsed. Thomas ran toward the center of the ash cloud.
"Someone needed help. It didn't matter who," he said. "I didn't even have a plan. But I have all this training as a Marine, and all I could think was, 'My city is in need.'"
Thomas bumped into another ex-Marine, Staff Sgt. David Karnes, and the pair decided to search for survivors.

‘United States Marines!’
Carrying little more than flashlights and an infantryman's shovel, they climbed the mountain of debris, skirting dangerous crevasses and shards of red-hot metal, calling out "Is anyone down there? United States Marines!"
It was dark before they heard a response. The two crawled into a deep pit to find McLoughlin and Jimeno, injured but alive.
Jimeno would spend 13 hours in the pit before he was pulled free. Thomas stayed long enough to see him come up, but left due to exhaustion before McLoughlin, who remained pinned for another nine hours, was retrieved.

Thomas said he returned to Ground Zero every day for another 2 1/2 weeks to pitch in, then walked away and tried to forget.
"I didn't want to relive what took place that day," he said.
Shamberg said he apologized to Thomas for an inaccuracy in the film: Thomas is black, but the actor cast to portray him, William Mapother, is white. Filmmakers realized the mistake only after production had begun, Shamberg said.

Thomas laughed and gently chided the filmmakers, then politely declined to discuss it further. "I don't want to shed any negativity on what they were trying to show," he said.
As for his story, Thomas said he is gradually becoming more comfortable telling it.
"It's been like therapy," he said.
 
This sure took everyone by surprise. The real Marine was a black guy who was portrayed as a white guy. Embarrasing.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14350685/?GT1=8404

Mystery 9/11 rescuer reveals himself

Unknown Marine steps forward as one who helped save two NYPD cops.

NEW YORK - For years, authorities wondered about the identity of a U.S. Marine who appeared at the World Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001, helped find a pair of police officers buried in the rubble, then vanished.
Even the producers of the new film chronicling the rescue, "World Trade Center," couldn't locate the mystery serviceman, who had given his name only as Sgt. Thomas.
The puzzle was finally solved when one Jason Thomas, of Columbus, Ohio, saw a TV commercial for the new movie a few weeks ago as he relaxed on his couch.

His eyes widened as he saw two Marines with flashlights, hunting for survivors atop the smoldering ruins.
"That's us. That's me!" thought Thomas, who lived in Long Island during the attacks and now works as an officer in Ohio's Supreme Court.
Thomas, 32, hesitantly re-emerged last week to recount the role he played in the rescue of Port Authority police officers Will Jimeno and Sgt. John McLoughlin, who were entombed beneath 20 feet of debris when the twin towers collapsed.

Proof of identity
Back in New York to speak of his experience and visit family, Thomas provided the AP with photographs of himself at Ground Zero. As further proof of his identity, the movie's producer, Michael Shamberg, said Thomas and Jimeno have spoken by phone and shared details only the two of them would know.

Thomas said he returned to Ground Zero every day for another 2 1/2 weeks to pitch in, then walked away and tried to forget.
"I didn't want to relive what took place that day," he said.
Shamberg said he apologized to Thomas for an inaccuracy in the film: Thomas is black, but the actor cast to portray him, William Mapother, is white. Filmmakers realized the mistake only after production had begun, Shamberg said.

Thomas laughed and gently chided the filmmakers, then politely declined to discuss it further. "I don't want to shed any negativity on what they were trying to show," he said.
As for his story, Thomas said he is gradually becoming more comfortable telling it.
"It's been like therapy," he said.
 
It's really bad that they didnt change that Marine sgt character to whom he really should be.

I think Oliver Stone didnt care at all!
 
phoenix80 said:
It's really bad that they didnt change that Marine sgt character to whom he really should be.

I think Oliver Stone didnt care at all!
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The Marine Sgt came forward ... he said he understood why the Sgt in the movie was white ... nobody had really known who the Sgt was (it wasn't widely disseminated), and by the time he came forward ... the movie was already in production and it was too late to change the white Marine Sgt to a black one.

Basically what he said was not to sweat the small stuff ... he wasn't going to.
 
I'm not keen to see it when it comes out here. It's too soon.
For Australians it doesn't have the same patriotic influence as it'll have for you Americans. It's like a Frenchman watching Breaker Morant.... it doesn't have the same impact for him
 
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Im not agaist what the movie is trying to say ,but after seeing Flight 93,and the other movie that was about flight 93 that came out a few months later, has peolpe thinking that it all started on that clear September moring.

But the thing is, there should be a movie that explains that militant Islam has been a American problem for far more that of the Years Flollowing 9/11.

The people that Have Called the International Jihad agaist all Infedels of the word of Allah, have been around a lot longer, and doing the things they do behind our backs, and even taken militant leaders,and battles to the Streets of New York, but, the United States, more concerned with the Soveits, ignored the threat of Militant Islam in its infancy,when things could have been stopped a lot easier.

That would be a blockbuster,
 
Sukio

It wouldn't be a blockbuster ... it would just be a 'maudlin' recap of the failures to nip Jihadism in the bud. It could have been accomplished by a hand full of bullets, and the cajones to use them to wipe out the first crazies to begin talking this extremist version of the Qaran (Koran), and the Muslim religion.

There is no blockbuster contained in that story.
 
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