Will USA sell India F/A-22 or JSF? - Page 5




 
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December 3rd, 2004  
Darcia
 
Yeah it is supoose to be a good replacement for alot of aircraft in all of the branches. I heard it may replace some of the Harriers because the fact they are like the deadliest aircraft we own.
December 3rd, 2004  
FlyingFrog
 
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Originally Posted by egoz
the unit cost of the F-35 is $28mil, compared to the F/A-18 E/F at $57 mil. so in theory the F-35 is a lot cheaper. they designed the plane to be low maintenance anyway.
If true, that's TOO cheap.

A SU-30MKK costs 50 milloin USD, PRC has about 70.
A Su-27MK costs about 30 million USD, PRC got about 200.
J-10 costs about 30 million USD.

I heard F/A-22 and JSF costs about 100 million USD.
December 3rd, 2004  
egoz
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingFrog
Quote:
Originally Posted by egoz
the unit cost of the F-35 is $28mil, compared to the F/A-18 E/F at $57 mil. so in theory the F-35 is a lot cheaper. they designed the plane to be low maintenance anyway.
If true, that's TOO cheap.

A SU-30MKK costs 50 milloin USD, PRC has about 70.
A Su-27MK costs about 30 million USD, PRC got about 200.
J-10 costs about 30 million USD.

I heard F/A-22 and JSF costs about 100 million USD.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...craft/f-35.htm
http://www.globalaircraft.org/planes/x-35_jsf.pl
there seems to be a discrepency in the prices, but they are still both pretty low, one site shows $28 and the other $37.
but the cost depends on the version. AF version is $37, Marine version (V/STOL) $46, and Navy $48.
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December 3rd, 2004  
FlyingFrog
 
Thanks for the links.

But it really bothers me tht F/A-22 can be so cheap.

I just found:

The other part is that, at a cost of about $260m (142m) each, the Raptor is designed to fight a potential Soviet enemy that no longer exists...
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=62692
December 3rd, 2004  
egoz
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingFrog
The other part is that, at a cost of about $260m (142m) each, the Raptor is designed to fight a potential Soviet enemy that no longer exists...
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=62692
The Congress and military has realized that which is why they've cut production numbers by more than 50% since the beginning of the program. Which is also why the unit cost has sky rocketed. If you're going to produce something in smaller numbers it's obviously going to cost more.
December 3rd, 2004  
Damien435
 
 
Yeah, unit costs mean total costs to produce all the planes divided by the number of planes built, hence why the B-2 was so expensive per plane, it was supposed to be mass produced but that never happened. So if we built alot of JSF's the costs will go down, and it is supposed to replace tens of thousands of aircraft currently in use. Plus the fact that we built one plane for all these roles made it cheaper also.
December 3rd, 2004  
FlyingFrog
 
If F-22 is mass produced, the price would go down to around $40M, I believe that.

Just FYI:

Unit cost:
F-16A/B , $14.6 million
F-16C/D, $18.8 million
December 4th, 2004  
Xion
 
Can the price drop from $ 253 million per piece to a mere $ 40 million ?, I doubt it.
December 4th, 2004  
Damien435
 
 
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Originally Posted by Xion
Can the price drop from $ 253 million per piece to a mere $ 40 million ?, I doubt it.
$253 million each? I think your numbers are way off. The highest I have ever seen is $180 million each, and if we start mass producing them the cost will plummet becuase then the denomenator in the equation will be growing faster than the numerator, which means a lower costs per.
December 4th, 2004  
Xion
 
I can very explicitly remember it was 253 million dollars per piece, the most expensive fighter aircraft ever made.It was in the newspapers here.Even if they start producing it in mass, I don't think it will plummet down to 40 million dollars.It will still be very expensive.