WILL GERMANY RISE AGAIN: FOURTH REICH? - Page 3




 
--
 
July 18th, 2004  
Big_Z
 
 
I know Americans dont think that Germans are Nazi's. We dont say "Germany" when talking about ww2, we say "Nazi Germany".
July 23rd, 2004  
Young Winston
 
 
No.

The Germans are well educated about there WW2 involvement. Unfortunately the Japanese are not.

it was great to see the German leader at the recent D-Day commemorations.
July 23rd, 2004  
Pollux
 
There were some dicussions about that here....
because he just visited a british cemetary, and no german one.....
--
July 23rd, 2004  
Uncle_Sam
 
 
http://www.stormfront.org/archive/t-56513

Well, what do You say about this than?
I read an article in news paper about nazism raging again, and I tried to find some more on google, and this is what I came across.....
July 23rd, 2004  
Bootboy82
 
Like some people already said, I don't think there is the slightest chance of a "fourth reich" because of our current political system as well as influence from our neighbouring countries.
July 23rd, 2004  
Pollux
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle_Sam
Well, what do You say about this than?
I read an article in news paper about nazism raging again, and I tried to find some more on google, and this is what I came across.....
Sorry, but I dont understand your question.
Would you please be more precisely?
Of course there exist Nazi organisations, also in Germany, but they have a hard life here. All Nazi symbols are forbidden, and if you carry, or even own one, you can be punished. Every organisation, that is proven to be nationalistic, will be forbidden.
I think in the US it is by far easier to found such organisations.
July 23rd, 2004  
Uncle_Sam
 
 
I'm angry on those maniacs! Did You read what they wrote? It's good that it's forbiden.....
July 25th, 2004  
Koldun
 
 
Dictionary.com defines "reich" as:

"The territory or government of a German state, as the Holy Roman Empire, or First Reich, from the ninth century to 1806; the German Empire, or Second Reich, from 1871 to 1919; the Weimar Republic, from 1919 to 1933; or the Third Reich, from 1933 to 1945."

Unless I am completely wrong in my interpretation of history, the only one of those associated with Nazism was the Third Reich, which lasted only 12 years.

I know that the Neo-Nazi movement keeps agitating for the establishment of a "Fourth Reich", but I don't see that happening.

In my opinion, my original reply remains valid. If history records the existance of a Fourth Reich, it is likely to be referring to something that will have been established after our lifetimes. It will take time for the memories to fade, but eventually Germany under Nazism will be relegated to the same dusty history books as Russia under Ivan the Terrible or the Roman Empire under Caligula...it just won't matter anymore.
July 25th, 2004  
Mark Conley
 
 
makes sense.

so,,,anybody want to put money on the establishment of another german reich?

as apposed to a chinese empire?

as opposed to a roman empire?

as opposed to a japanese co-prosperity sphere?

as opposed to making the world safe for a democracy?

seems like the terms are different...

BTW...would an economic empire count as well? The saudis could buy and sell most nations...if the price was right. Or if the market was right. You have to remember, the cold war with the soviet union ended up as an economic battle...look who won that.

later

July 25th, 2004  
Koldun
 
 
I don't know about a New Roman Empire, although I can see the establishment of a Fourth Reich with the creation of a New Holy Roman Empire. Not with the current political climate, of course...but the possibility is there.

I can also see a Japanese Co-Prosperity Sphere, although I think it would be more economic in nature than military.

As for a renewed Chinese Empire...no really. Too much has changed in the world political climate for such to be established again short of a massive world war that reduces civilization back to near-barbarism.

As a side note, though...when the Soviet Union collapsed and the former Republics were scrambling around trying to decide on how to set up a government, there was a faction that seriously considered inviting the current heir to the Romanov throne (living in Monaco at the time, I believe) to reclaim the crown as Czar. Nothing came of it, of course...but had it happened, Russia could have become a Constitutional Monarchy like England.

So I guess anything is possible.