Yes. This is my dream. I dream of a monarchy with Jesus Christ as King for 1000 years. This is the socialists nightmare.

Originally Posted by Gregor1

Yes. This is my dream. I dream of a monarchy with Jesus Christ as King for 1000 years. This is the socialists nightmare.

Wow! That's a pretty big dream!

Originally Posted by Gregor1

Yes. This is my dream. I dream of a monarchy with Jesus Christ as King for 1000 years.

In your world Christianity isn't a religion becurce of the words: animism, buddhism, hinduism, taoism, mohommedism, judaism, communism, capitalism, humanism, secularism, conservatism, liberalism, libertarianism. What do these words all have in common? They are all isms. An ism is an ideology, a world view and Christianity is not an ism. So Christianity is a kingdom and a relationship. It's a kingdom relationship and as an individual you must pledge your allegiance to Christ to enter that Kingdom.

Jesus talked about "the kingdom of heaven." He also said "The kingdom of God is within you." The Kingdom of God is about the rulership of Christ now and forever, "on earth as it is in heaven." It is the now part, on earth, that you want – right?
You believe the highest office in the land should belong to Jesus Christ and we should offer Him all Legislative and Judicial power as well as the Executive. We should change our system of government into a constitutional monarchy, with Jesus Christ as the acknowledged head.
This is your dream?

Originally Posted by Gregor1

This is the socialists nightmare.

But was Jesus not the first socialist, he seeks a better world for mankind. Not just one, but ALL humanity. Jesus said.. “I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.” Does that sound Capitalistic to you? So since Christ wanted all to be saved, he was a socialist.

How do they say it in english? Wise despotism?

The problem is that total power is soon followed by corruption.

You know Gregor1, I did read about how a Muslim "emirat" is supposed to be run... And it described a very interesting system of "government". They had "experts" dominating every fields...

Like take an assembly of doctors, a corps of medical professionals dictate the policies when it comes to health issues. How to run hospitals etc...

For security, they had a corp of policemen, soldiers etc... The people who know the business to rule...

It was "democracy" and I mean by that "voting" at the leadership model.

And if you wanted to have political power, then you had to join one of these corps... Be a soldier or a doctor and then, you could state your opinion and contradict these experts...

The public on the other hand had no obligations to pay "taxes"... It was more like a private sector...
But at that time, they didnt had roads, aircrafts, cars etc etc...

It's pretty close to your description... But "better" in a systemic point of view...

And keep waiting for Jesus... hehe

Why should we wait until those pagans (polytheists and atheists) get the world power? Let´s react with a fascistic dictatorship and fight those bastards as soon as possible. Or the pagans will get the power and make us to their slaves.

@micha
You want to fight the fascists to the death? Did you also fought the communists to the death to defend the democracy? It seems as if you hate the fascism but tolerate the communism.

@yin717
The fascists and also the commies knew that those who control Europe have the world power. So who cares for Korea or southeast Asia? That´s another example how rediculus the western democratic system is. But on the other hand the Nato-expansion to eastern europe was a well done job.

Originally Posted by Gregor1

Why should we wait until those pagans (polytheists and atheists) get the world power? Let´s react with a fascistic dictatorship and fight those bastards as soon as possible. Or the pagans will get the power and make us to their slaves.

This isn't so much of an issue in Britain but I certainly know that in America religion is a major thing of politics. They really want a Christian leader. Did you ever see any of that stuff about the public getting really upset at the thought of Obama being a Muslim? He, of course, clearly wasn't but it made the public lose alot of faith in him. Now America is still the most dominating country in the world. They're not pagans or atheists. And what's wrong with them being in power? Politics isn't about saving stupid culture...well that's a bit of a lie because to be totally frank if your representing your country your representing that culture. But regardless of what religion you are you still wouldn't stamp that out. So I don't know what your so upset about. But returning to be original point. Politics isn't about culture it's about doing what is best for that country. Helping it through tough timers and bad times. It is doing what the country wants which can go from more benefits to a war on terror. And they'd make us slaves? Were not in the 19th Century! Many other countries wouldn't allow that and the UN would become involved. Just like what happened in Serbia. What you are suggesting may have been a threat over 50 years ago but it is virtually impossible in today's modern politics.

@yin717
The fascists and also the commies knew that those who control Europe have the world power. So who cares for Korea or southeast Asia? That´s another example how rediculus the western democratic system is. But on the other hand the Nato-expansion to eastern europe was a well done job.

But this just exactly explains my point that I was making. Why did neither country control Europe in the Cold War? because all the countries united together to fight each other off. The same thing happened in Asia. And also to say no one cares about Asia is ridiculous. The are loads of NIC's, Newly Industrialised Country, growing the fastest of course being China. And before you turn around and say, this is an example of communism were not fighting then you are greatly mistaken. America is keeping a very close eye on it. As well as that, the public love technology and this technology is making them learn more about the outside world. The Chinese government is greatly afraid that the people will turn against Communism and to be totally frank I think they will. I reckon in 100 years max China will no longer be communist. I would actually bag on it in being under 50 years.

So the point I am trying to make is, just like what happened in Asia in Europe countries of ideologies will unite together to fight off the other. Trying to get rid of an ideology by force will never work! As well as that, Asia must not be ignored because it is growing rapidly and is as important, maybe becoming more important, than Europe. Because really all Europe has left is some big rich countries. The only really industrialised country left is Germany.

But it's wonderful to find people who still think like that in Europe... Pagans here, accusing communists of being pagans... Just wonderful, a christian zealot waiting for the Messiah and his army...

And Yin717 slavery exists in our modern world... We just changed it a little.

In the past, we forced men and women to work for us. And we allow their masters to kill them, rape them etc because they were "white" or because they had a higher status...

But today, we changed that a little... We pay them, but we give them 10 times less for the same job.

Have you been in a poor country before? To see a rich tourist enjoying 16years old prostitutes? How is that different from the Roman era when a citizen of rome could enjoy slaves?

It's the same scenes. Of course, we say "it's their choice, they are free, they can do something else if they want."
But they are not for some reason... Not because they like it, but for some other reason...

We still have people marrying to have a citizenship. Or these competent immigrant who are granted a citizenship... A bit like a slave buying his freedom somehow...

We are using the same concepts... The names and rules have changed a bit... But it's exactly the same thing.

Originally Posted by LeMask

But it's wonderful to find people who still think like that in Europe... Pagans here, accusing communists of being pagans... Just wonderful, a christian zealot waiting for the Messiah and his army...

And Yin717 slavery exists in our modern world... We just changed it a little.

In the past, we forced men and women to work for us. And we allow their masters to kill them, rape them etc because they were "white" or because they had a higher status...

But today, we changed that a little... We pay them, but we give them 10 times less for the same job.

Have you been in a poor country before? To see a rich tourist enjoying 16years old prostitutes? How is that different from the Roman era when a citizen of rome could enjoy slaves?

It's the same scenes. Of course, we say "it's their choice, they are free, they can do something else if they want."
But they are not for some reason... Not because they like it, but for some other reason...

We still have people marrying to have a citizenship. Or these competent immigrant who are granted a citizenship... A bit like a slave buying his freedom somehow...

We are using the same concepts... The names and rules have changed a bit... But it's exactly the same thing.

This I do not deny but I was just trying to make the point that the things he seems to worry about happening really wouldn't happen in the country he lives in. Sadly I don't travel alot because my parents don't like to travel abroad really. So this makes me to really want to travel abroad and see these areas. But I am aware of it. And to be totally frank, democracy is far better at getting rid of it than either Communism or Fascism. I'm not saying it's perfect I'm just saying it is far more sophisticated at that role.

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Originally Posted by Micha

Dictatorships often appear invulnerable. Intelligence agencies, police, military forces, prisons and execution squads are controlled by a powerful few. A country's finances, natural resources, and production capacities are often arbitrarily plundered by dictators and used to support the dictators' will. In comparison, democratic opposition forces often appear extremely weak, ineffective, and powerless. That perception of invulnerability against powerlessness makes effective opposition unlikely.

That is not the whole story, however. A myth from Classical Greece illustrates well the vulnerability of the supposedly invulnerable. Against the warrior Achilles, no blow would injure and no sword would penetrate his skin. When still a baby, Achilles' mother had supposedly dipped him into the waters of the magical river Styx, resulting in the protection of his body from all dangers. There was, however, a problem. Since the baby was held by his heel so that he would not be washed away, the magical water had not covered that small part of his body. When Achilles was a grown man he appeared to all to be invulnerable to the enemies' weapons. However, in the battle against Troy, instructed by one who knew the weakness, an enemy soldier aimed his arrow at Achilles' unprotected heel, the one spot where he could be injured. The strike proved fatal. Still today, the phrase "Achilles' heel" refers to the vulnerable part of a person, a plan, or an institution at which if attacked there is no protection.

The same principle applies to ruthless dictatorships. They, too, can be conquered, but most quickly and with least cost if their weaknesses can be identified and the attack concentrated on them. Among the weaknesses of dictatorships are the following:

The cooperation of a multitude of people, groups, and institutions needed to operate the system may be restricted or withdrawn.

The requirements and effects of the regime's past policies will somewhat limit its present ability to adopt and implement conflicting policies.

The system may become routine in its operation, less able to adjust quickly to new situations.

Personnel and resources already allocated for existing tasks will not be easily available for new needs.

Subordinates fearful of displeasing their superiors may not report accurate or complete information needed by the dictators to make decisions.

The ideology may erode, and myths and symbols of the system may become unstable.

If a strong ideology is present which influences one's view of reality, firm adherence to it may cause inattention to actual conditions and needs.

Deteriorating efficiency and competency of the bureaucracy, or excessive controls and regulations, may make the system's policies and operation ineffective.

Internal institutional conflicts and personal rivalries and hostilities may harm, and even disrupt, the operation of the dictatorship.

Intellectuals and students may become restless in response to conditions, restrictions, doctrinarism, and repression.

The general public may over time become apathetic, skeptical, and even hostile to the regime.

Regional, class, cultural, or national differences may become acute.

The power hierarchy of the dictatorship is always unstable to some degree, and at times extremely so. Individuals do not only remain in the same position in the ranking, but may rise or fall to other ranks or be removed entirely and replaced by new persons.

Sections of the police or military forces may act to achieve their own objectives, even against the will of established dictators, including by coup d’état.

If the dictatorship is new, time is required for it to become well established.

With so many decisions made by so few people in the dictatorship, mistakes of judgment, policy, and action are likely to occur.

If the regime seeks to avoid these dangers and decentralizes controls and decision making, its control over the central levers of power may be further eroded.

With knowledge of such inherent weaknesses, the democratic opposition can seek to aggravate these "Achilles' heels" deliberately in order to alter the system drastically or to disintegrate it.

The conclusion is then clear: despite the appearances of strength, all dictatorships have weaknesses, internal inefficiencies, personal rivalries, institutional inefficiencies, and conflicts between organizations and departments. These weaknesses, over time, tend to make the regime less effective and more vulnerable to changing conditions and deliberate resistance. Not everything the regime sets out to accomplish will get completed. At times, for example, even Hitler's direct orders were never implemented because those beneath him in the hierarchy refused to carry them out. The dictatorial regime may at times even fall apart quickly, as we have already observed.

In recent years various dictatorships-of both internal and external origin-have collapsed or stumbled when confronted by defiant, mobilized people. Often seen as firmly entrenched and impregnable, some of these dictatorships proved unable to withstand the concerted political, economic, and social defiance of the people.

You claim that democracies are weak. No my friend, it just looks that way but if you come into a conflict with democracy, then you will discover that it is a strong foe.

Since 1980 dictatorships have collapsed before the predominantly nonviolent defiance of people in Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania, Poland, East Germany, Czechoslovakia and Slovenia, Madagascar, Mali, Bolivia, and the Philippines. Nonviolent resistance has furthered the movement toward democratization in Nepal, Zambia, South Korea, Chile, Argentina, Haiti, Brazil, Uruguay, Malawi, Thailand, Bulgaria, Hungary, Zaire, Nigeria, and various parts of the former Soviet Union (playing a significant role in the defeat of the August 1991 attempted hard-line coup d'‚tat).

You just continue to dream about your fascist paradise, you will never experience it.

Democracy’s sword will decapitate the fascist monster within minutes.

Lovely ideology! @ the end of which- resume for being prejudice'st...