WHY?




 
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4 Days Ago  
oz codger
 
 

Topic: WHY?


If the Super-Dooper model of the Russian S.400 is so good, then why did the "2nd rate" US cruise missiles not get shot out of the sky?

Did they need a weeks notice to get ready, did they not have all the terrific radars to tell them the sky was full of Tomahawks?

Is the Russian stuff full of b******t? Just like saddam's?

Will the next Super Dooper be invincible?

OC
4 Days Ago  
oz codger
 
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...cts-Assad.html

Herr Goebells would be proud of all that BS propaganda!

My bet is that the 'Brahmos', and the PRC hypersonic 'Carrier Killer" are in the same category.

OC
3 Days Ago  
MontyB
 
 
I assume you realise that (and this applies to all countries) along with new weaponry comes new propaganda to tell you how great it is.

For example, stealth is only stealth from certain angles, impregnable armour is never impregnable and shooting down missiles is not an easy thing to do, no one has a foolproof system of doing it.

The reality is that most missile defence systems barely get a 50% pass mark and even that involves fudging the numbers, my personal belief is that until someone comes up with a UAV that can shadow the launcher and get the missile while it is slow and on a fixed trajectory then it I all just a 50/50 lottery.
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3 Days Ago  
oz codger
 
 
Monty,

Have to agree with that, and I do wonder at the western media slant of "Russian and Chinese stuff is great and the American stuff is crap".

We had an 'expert' called Major Peter Young here in the days prior to the invasion of Iraq, and he stated on national TV that an invasion of Iraq would cost the US "50,000 dead". It was all over in 100 hours, and very few Yanks were killed, far less than the 'Invincible Guard' I think they called themselves.

Never seen him on TV since.

OC
3 Days Ago  
MontyB
 
 
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Originally Posted by oz codger
Monty,

Have to agree with that, and I do wonder at the western media slant of "Russian and Chinese stuff is great and the American stuff is crap".

We had an 'expert' called Major Peter Young here in the days prior to the invasion of Iraq, and he stated on national TV that an invasion of Iraq would cost the US "50,000 dead". It was all over in 100 hours, and very few Yanks were killed, far less than the 'Invincible Guard' I think they called themselves.

Never seen him on TV since.

OC
Clearly that was someone who swallowed the WMD story hook, line and sinker.

Conversely I recall talking to a guy in the reception at work and it turns out he had been part of the UN weapons inspection team, he said there was nothing to find, seems he was right.

Then again your guy wasnt entirely wrong as the number of dead and wounded US personnel up to 2016 is about 36,000.
2 Days Ago  
oz codger
 
 
"Then again your guy wasnt entirely wrong as the number of dead and wounded US personnel up to 2016 is about 36,000."



Major Young was referring to 50,000 DEAD as a cost of the invasion.

And i doubt that the WMD question was what he had in mind, it was the supposed cost of KIAs in conventional battle. He mentioned the T72 as a major factor and threat to the 'Abrams'. I read a claim thet the battle made a VERY big impression on Russia and China.

OC