This is why I support CCW - Page 16




 
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This is why I support CCW
 
April 23rd, 2007  
Marinerhodes
 
 
This is why I support CCW
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Originally Posted by Donkey
Marinerhodes

In some states what you talk about exists...Such states as CT and MA require you to take a safety course, get letters of recommendation (about your character), and an approval from your local police chief for you to obtain your CCW alowing you to purchase and carry a handgun.

Links of reference:

http://www.bradycampaign.org/legisla...tate.php?st=ct
http://www.packing.org/state/connecticut/

And myself; I have numerous friends with CCW as well as members of my family. I myself plan on getting one very soon.
For a CCW yeah...but just to purchase a handgun? What if no one knew me well enough to give me character references hehe?

I was speaking mainly of just to purchase a handgun you had to go thru safety courses and have it registered in a state/federal computer that you attended the class and so on and so forth.
April 23rd, 2007  
Donkey
 
 
In the state of CT you can not purchase a handgun unless you have a CCW, in fact you cant even borrow one or transport one in your car without a CCW.
April 23rd, 2007  
5.56X45mm
 
 
Florida law

You must be 18 years of age or older to purchase a Long gun (Rifle - Shotgun) and ammunition for a long gun.

You must be 21 years of age or older to purchase a Sidearm (Pistol - Revolver) and ammunition for a sidearm.

If you are a civilian, you must go throught a background check and a five day waiting period.

If you are a Law Enforcement Officer, you must go through a background check and a 3 day waiting period.

If you are either and have a Florida Conceal Carry Weapon Permit, you must go through a background check and then you can take your firearm home on day of purchase.

Florida is a Shall Issue State in regards to the CCW. What that means it that the state cannot say no to your permit if you can have it. Basicly, New York can decicided whether or not if they will give you a CCW permit.

Florida by law must give you one if you pass. If you have no criminal record, no mental health history, no domestic violence history, nothing you're clean. The State of Florida must give you a CCW permit. There is no reason why the state cannot. The states that are May Issue take alot of power into who gets them and hwo doesn't. It comes down to politics and money. If you are well connected in New York, you get one. If not sucks to be you.

Not in Florida.....

To get a CCW permit in florida, you must attened a CW Course thought by a certfified NRA/Police Instructor. The instructor will teach you about where you can carry and where you cannot, when you can draw and when you cannot, etc... You must fire a wepaon in front of said instructor and prove that you know how to handle your firearm. Once that is done the instructor signs you off.

After that you fill out the state packet, get your finger prints done, and mail the packet in plus a check.

The State has 90 days to review your packet and run the background check. WIthin those 90 days if you pass the background check and such they will mail you your CCW Permit.

Few exceptions for the instructor course.

1. You are prior or current US Military. If prior service you send off your DD214, if current you send off your current firearm qualification records.

2. Current Law Enforcement. You can carry off duty without a CCW if your PD allows so under Departmental SOPs. If not you can apply for a CCW and send off your current firearm qualification records.

3. Professional Competitive Shooter. You must prove that you are a competitive shooter and you must show a instructor that you are one, if the instructor agrees he signs you off and you do not need to take the course. (That is what I sent in, at the time I was a sponsored shooter. I shot IDPA and IPSC. The gun store I worked for sponsored me. I was a walking billboard for them. I also sent in my DD214)

In Florida, you cannot carry a firearm on or about your person in public without a CCW. Your home and business are exceptions. You can opnely carry if you choose to because your home and business is your castle.

Your Vehcile is also an exception. You can have a loaded firearm if it is securely encased...

790.25 (5)(5) Lawful Ownership, Possession, and Use of Firearms and Other Weapons
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It is not necessary to have a license or permit to carry a loaded firearm in a private vehicle, so long as the gun is "securely encased". Florida law defines a weapon as being securely encased if the firearm is in a glove compartment, whether or not locked, in a snapped holster (not worn on your body!), in a zippered gun case or in a box or other container that requires a lid or cover to be lifted or opened in order to gain access to the firearm. These restrictions do not apply to any person who holds a valid Florida Concealed Weapon License or a reciprocal state license/permit.
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This is why I support CCW
April 24th, 2007  
Ted
 
 
I reckon that the answer lays in only two options. Either you arm everybody or you have everybody disarmed. (Except the people who are supposed to wear one). I sincerely prefer option two, but people who call themselves realists, will go for option one. Foul times we live in!
April 25th, 2007  
Donkey
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ted
I reckon that the answer lays in only two options. Either you arm everybody or you have everybody disarmed. (Except the people who are supposed to wear one). I sincerely prefer option two, but people who call themselves realists, will go for option one. Foul times we live in!
No silly you will never be able to disarm everyone...If you do they will just make weapons of their own, not hard to do.

The option is to educate the public and make sure the database systems are updated and used.
May 15th, 2007  
Young Winston
 
 
Why aren't all teachers armed like this?
May 15th, 2007  
Ted
 
 
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Originally Posted by Young Winston
Why aren't all teachers armed like this?
Very simple Winston, I am a teacher and I would not want to wear weapon in school. If that is what is required I would stop teaching, case closed!
May 16th, 2007  
Rob Henderson
 
 
But the thing is Ted, even though it's extremely sad, we are getting to the point where teachers may HAVE to carry weapons to prevent things like VT from happening.
May 16th, 2007  
Gator
 
 
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Originally Posted by C/1Lt Henderson
But the thing is Ted, even though it's extremely sad, we are getting to the point where teachers may HAVE to carry weapons to prevent things like VT from happening.
Raise the cost of going to VT and all other colleges by $5,000.00 a year per Student and hire Well Armed, Well Trained, Well Equiped, and Well Paid Campus Police.
Raise the cost by $10,000.00 a year per Student and add Bulletproof Doors with automatic locks so Students need buzzed into the Classroom after class starts, and the same doors at the Dorms.

If Parents truly care about their kids safety then they will come up with the extra money, or just make Student Loans accessible to cover the increase.

Problem solved, and no Laws need changed.
May 16th, 2007  
Ted
 
 
The thing is Henderson that I don't understand why the US is the only country I know, which is considering these Draconic measures. We also have criminals with guns but they target mainly at counterparts. This is a nice side-effect for our judicial system, it reduces their work load.

But rarely do criminals randomly target civilians. This makes me believe that easy acces to guns probably is the cause. Before I would arm an entire nation I would try to dis-arm them... If everybody is truely horrified by these massacres they wouldn't object. If they do object then they aren't horrified enough.... at least that is the impression I get.
 


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