Why have all Arab-Israeli wars ended in victory for the latter? - Page 2




 
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May 5th, 2011  
mmarsh
 
 
There are several reasons why the Arabs have consequentiality lost, Keep in mind that I am referring is about the 1960s, 1970s, and early 1980s. The present day is much different.

1. Training: Back in the 60s 70s, most Arab soldiers were illiterate goat herding conscripts. IDF was a professionally trained Army. After WWII, there was a large immigration to Israel of European Jewish refugees with combat experience, especially from the USSR but also from other countries as well. The Arabs really didn't benefit from the experiences of WWII

2. Equipment: The Israelis have always been equipped with state of the art weapons first from Britain, then France, then finally the USA. The Arabs have been equipped with WWII cast offs then inferior Soviet weapons.

3. Motivation/Morale: As stated much of the Arab Armies were conscripted into fighting for Dictators. There was little sense of Nationalism or Patriotic fervor. The Israelis always felt they were fighting for survival.

4. Support. The Israelis are not only giving military and financial aid, but also military intelligence by the United States. The USSR while providing *some* assistance to the Arabs never did so to the degree that the US did. The USSR's interest was merely to check Western influence in the Middle East, it was never interested helping the Arabs win. The Middle East was really never a huge interest to the USSR.

As I said though the situation is now changing Turkey and Egypt have now adopted a more professional volunteer military. They have also (along with Jordan, and Saudi Arabia) begun to purchase US and European Arms, and as we have seen most recently the dictators of hold have been overthrown by Democratic and patriotic popular movements.

Israel will always be a regional power, but it wont be the sole power for very long.
May 21st, 2011  
ticwocw
 
In my opinions.Because Arab nations didn't Unite together.And Arab was not clever and slip than Israeli. the second reason, Israeli had American fully support.
May 21st, 2011  
84RFK
 
 
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Originally Posted by ticwocw
In my opinions.Because Arab nations didn't Unite together.And Arab was not clever and slip than Israeli. the second reason, Israeli had American fully support.
It doesn't matter, as long as the Arab nations remain a threath against Israel there will be a constant arms-race.

And in the eyes of the people who supply arms, that means buisness.
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May 22nd, 2011  
r.fox
 
 
the israelis also made use of whatever advantages they could get their hands on and based their plans around what equipment they had available.
May 23rd, 2011  
84RFK
 
 
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Originally Posted by r.fox
the israelis also made use of whatever advantages they could get their hands on and based their plans around what equipment they had available.
That's true, few other countries has managed to develop nuclear capacity (more than a few test-bombs) without any (official) supply of technology and hardware...
May 23rd, 2011  
lvcabbie
 
 

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Originally Posted by 84RFK
That's true, few other countries has managed to develop nuclear capacity (more than a few test-bombs) without any (official) supply of technology and hardware...
The most important Israeli trait is discipline and leadership!!!!!
They train hard and are fighting for the lives of their loved ones. And, they are educated - something the average non-officer Arab lacks.
May 23rd, 2011  
senojekips
 
 
70% of Israels success lies in having the ongoing financial and military backing of the US.

A good example of what the Egyptians could do with halfway decent weaponry was seen when they overran the Israeli positions and routed their armour with the Sagger missile, back in the Sinai in October 1973. Although the israelis eventually gained the upper hand this attack scared the b'jesus out of them, and led to the Camp David Accords.

Nuclear deterence is not the answer many people think it is against the Arab world, because of a number of reasons that have been pointed out on this forum previously.
May 24th, 2011  
r.fox
 
 
though we have to admit that the isrealis some times acted for random reasons eg attack on uss liberity in 6 day war
May 30th, 2011  
Alan P
 
One has to remember Israel is surrounded by Arab countries and if attacked by Arab countries. It is not a case of losing the battle it is a case of losing their country and that is why the Israelis fight that harder

Alan P.
May 30th, 2011  
senojekips
 
 
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Originally Posted by Alan P
One has to remember Israel is surrounded by Arab countries and if attacked by Arab countries. It is not a case of losing the battle it is a case of losing their country and that is why the Israelis fight that harder

Alan P.
You very conveniently forget to mention that the country actually belongs to, and was promised to the Palestinian people by the British administration in return for their assistance against the Turks in WWI.

It does not, and never has belonged to a group of European refugees whose terrorist actions drove the Brits out in 1947. The IDF harrass, beat, terrorise and murder those people who resist them because they are no more than a continuation of the thugs of the Stern Gang and others.

And before you start,.. by "Palestinians", I mean all those persons who were living in Palestine (including the Jews), prior to the flood of European Zionists.

If you think the Palestinians are wrong in resisting, what would you do if for example, France gave the best part of UK to the starving Somalians and then supported them with huge amounts of money and military aid to kill anyone who resisted?

Other than that, if you are so convinced that the Jewish people deserve their own homeland, why don't you petition your own government to give half of your country to them.
 


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