It is appreciated, and bear in mind that you're keeping a very civil and decent tone in this discussion. Its just something that I thought I'd give you to consider: The fact that China likes to belittle many of their neighbors for being closer to the USA than to China. I would like to suggest to you that friendly relationships with non-Asian nations does not constitute a betrayal nor treason nor any crime at all. I don't know if you can truly see what I mean though. The Qing Dynasty of 1800 AD -1900 AD had many of the same attitudes towards the West and it only lead to their downfall.Urbanboy said:lol, ok i wont throw running dog or paper tiger at those countries, or dont use animal terms at all,
" 8) i guess ill use my lil red book's phases another day 8) "
As I've said, I've yet to see someone effectively prove to me that Taiwan is a part of the Peoples Republic of China. I've yet to see proof that Taiwan does not have the right to decide the matter for itself. I'm not going to offer a prediction as to what that decision might be. That is not the point.anyway, in my mind no doubt taiwan is a part of china, however you want to comment, taiwan is always a part of china
and im not talking about governmental or politidcal terms here, so do you agree, then, that taiwan is a part of china?
I think it is all sabre rattling, the Chinese are too smart to invade. Everything to lose and nothing to gain.
Urbanboy said:this is all taiwan's decision, like do they wanted to be reclaimed with joyce or independency with force
It really nothing more and nothing less than China putting in writing the policy that they've been following all along.Urbanboy said:but you know what, this new anti-session law basically lays down a new rule of the game, and that is if taiwan becomes independent, then war will occur
Well, here's the problem with that. In East Asia, shame and honor and the associated pride coming from that are huge. Beyond huge. The possibility of shame and losing face will virtually always trump any and all rational thought. This is why you have an extremely long list of territories that are claimed by two nations, but neither nation will back down and both nations seem more than happy to risk all manner of war, death and destruction over them.Mikey said:Look at some point you got to put your pocket before your pride, and that is the only reason China wants to invade Taiwan.
Urbanboy said:lol, i thought it was east asia we were talking about here, hey dont leave out the koreans and japanese as well
the situation with taiwan is that it is currently ruled by a pro-independency government, something that does jeopardize the relations
id rather have good ol kmt rule taiwan
Believe me, I'm including Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Vietnam and everyone else in the neighborhood in that.Urbanboy said:lol, i thought it was east asia we were talking about here, hey dont leave out the koreans and japanese as well
That's one thing I'm unclear on. Isn't the Independence Movement working within the current policial system (which derived from the KMT) and more or less just asking for a name change for the Republic of China? Or are they seeking to establish a new country with a new Constitution and Government?id rather have good ol kmt rule taiwan
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