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Boots
 
December 13th, 2004  
SwordFish_13
 
 
Hi,

Quote:
Originally Posted by atheer
amm what is evloution..?
It's a Theory Given my Charles darvin on how Life begain and came to current form as we see it now ................ it's one of the many Scientific theories but this theory has more support that any other till date .................you can read about it here ----> Evolution By Charles darvin

ok back to Topic ..............I am still Very Much Against the theory my take against the theory of Evolution
  • Natural selection the supposed evolution mechanism, along with mutations is incapable of advancing an organism to a "higher-order"........My Dog will be a Dog no matter what it breeds with .
  • Although evolutionists state that life resulted from non-life, matter resulted from nothing, and humans resulted from animals, each of these is an impossibility of science and the natural world............we still havent able to recreate it ...........we cannot create a Living organism form other non-living matter.
  • The supposed hominids (creatures in-between ape and human that evolutionists believe used to exist) bones and skull record used by evolutionists often consists of `finds' which are thoroughly unrevealing and inconsistent. They are neither clear nor conclusive even though evolutionists present them as if they were.
  • why didn't All Monkey (Ape) Evolve?
  • The final three supposed hominids put forth by evolutionists are actually modern human beings and not part monkey/ ape at all..........it is contradictory that they were our ensesters then
  • Natural selection has severe logical inconsistencies.

It is no way perfect theory ...........

-=SF_13=-
December 13th, 2004  
A Can of Man
 
 
Of theories that cannot be 100% proven, this is one of the strongest casees. Evolution, in ways, can be observed in our own world. You know bacteria do it all the time? It's fascinating to watch them undergo some level of evolution because their life spans are short and they can simulate in days what would happen over thousands of years for the rest of us.
Now one problem with identifying evolution is that with complex creatures, it takes a very long time to happen. Also it requires the right level of near-extermination. Unfortunately people tend to be so good at killing off species that they don't have a chance to evolve before they're wiped out. But before, when there were more natural predators, when a species was under threat of extinction and a few of their genetically varied kind were able to survive because of their genetic differences, that set the stage for evolution into a different species.
I think for the little "problems" the theory of evolution has, the case to back it is too strong to deny.

By the way, no one who really knows what they're talking about says humans came from chimpanzees or apes. But they do feel there was a common ancestor way back. Notice, Apes, Chimpanzees and gorillas are not mixable either.
February 1st, 2005  
Sexybeast
 
there are just so many things that can prove earth is much older than bible says.....so maybe god created the world..but i dont believe in bible
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February 1st, 2005  
r031Button
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SwordFish_13
Hi,

Quote:
Originally Posted by atheer
amm what is evloution..?
It's a Theory Given my Charles Darwin on how Life begain and came to current form as we see it now ................ it's one of the many Scientific theories but this theory has more support that any other till date .................you can read about it here ----> Evolution By Charles darvin

ok back to Topic ..............I am still Very Much Against the theory my take against the theory of Evolution
  • Natural selection the supposed evolution mechanism, along with mutations is incapable of advancing an organism to a "higher-order"........My Dog will be a Dog no matter what it breeds with .
  • Although evolutionists state that life resulted from non-life, matter resulted from nothing, and humans resulted from animals, each of these is an impossibility of science and the natural world............we still havent able to recreate it ...........we cannot create a Living organism form other non-living matter.
  • The supposed hominids (creatures in-between ape and human that evolutionists believe used to exist) bones and skull record used by evolutionists often consists of `finds' which are thoroughly unrevealing and inconsistent. They are neither clear nor conclusive even though evolutionists present them as if they were.
  • why didn't All Monkey (Ape) Evolve?
  • The final three supposed hominids put forth by evolutionists are actually modern human beings and not part monkey/ ape at all..........it is contradictory that they were our ensesters then
  • Natural selection has severe logical inconsistencies.

It is no way perfect theory ...........

-=SF_13=-
Where is the flaw in natural selection? Those that are fittest are more likely to find mates, and more likely to produce healthy offspring that are capable of surviving due to superior traits.

Homids are a genus of the Primates, Monkey's and Apes are different genus, we didn't evolve from monkey's, we evolved at the same time as them along different paths.

All apes have evolved, simply along diverging paths. Apes are well suited to their enviroments; a result of evolutions.

The Fossil record is incomplete. It does however provide us with samples of early human like species. Is it conclusive? No, it is however, evidence that there were other species of homids, possibly our ancestors, that walked up right and used tools.

Also, evolution is a fact. You cannot argue it does not occur every dentist who's had to take out wisdom teeth knows that our jaw is shortening; if we weren't changing they wouldn't have to come out. Also, natural selection can be proven with the peppered moth in England; species before the industrial revolutions was white as the trees were predominately that colour. However as the industrial revolution covered the trees with black soot, the white members of the population became prey and were eaten, thus they could not reproduce. The small percentage of darker moths were able to become dominant as they were able to reproduce and their traits were passed on.
February 2nd, 2005  
Sexybeast
 
wow man, becareful saying evolution is a fact, lots of ppl dont believe it

actually lots of ppl dont even believe world is over 10000 years old


last day i phone an auction company to ask about dinosour egg.....i called a wrong number then i just started to ask about dinosour egg....the man there silent for a few sec, then he asked me "wut dinosour", i said "those creatures exsited hundreds of milliions of years ago", then he said" do u believe that?"

do u believe that earth is over 10000 years old?
February 2nd, 2005  
r031Button
 
 
Evolution is a fact. We can see it around us; how and when is occurs is the topic of debate.

Of course i believe the earth is over 10,000 years old. Carbon 14 and K/Ar dating gives us scientific data showing specimens far older then that. Which hold more ground; the ideas presented in a book that's 2000 yeears old, or modern scientific data?
February 2nd, 2005  
Whispering Death
 
 
Yeah, you can believe that the earth is still the center of the universe if you want to, it doesn't make it the turth.
February 2nd, 2005  
Darkmb101
 
Evolution is a FACT because it is a slow, gradual devlopement or change over time. Can we all agree that Homo sapiens have changed over time? Do all of us believe that humans and plants and animals and any other living thing has changed over time to surive as time progresses? I agree to those statements.

One last thing, Charles Darwin did not create the Theory of Evolution; he created the Theory of Natural Selection. No where in Darwin's theory states that humans evolved from apes and if it does do show me.

Here's the quicky version of Darwin's theory.

!. A species reproduces more offspring that can live in an environment so the species can survive.

2. Species constantly struggle to survive.

3. Organisms in a species vary.

4. Those best adapted to survive. NOT "the survival of the fittest" but the survival of the FIT.

5. Organisms that survive pass traits to offspring.
February 3rd, 2005  
Sexybeast
 
sigh.....i had a serious argument with my pastor...who keeps showing 'prooves' that earth is younger than 10000 years....


i can show u ppl the materials he brings to me this weekend..maybe u ppl can help me
February 3rd, 2005  
r031Button
 
 
You can't win iwth your pastor. All you could say is that it is not scientificly possible for the world to be younger then 10000 years. To believe that would require a belief is the super natural; and scince does not deal with that, it's limited to the natural world.