where did we come from? - Page 3




 
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Boots
 
December 9th, 2004  
Anya1982
 
 

Topic: ok


Sorry if i mis-read you
December 9th, 2004  
Italian Guy
 
 
That's fine, I just didn't mean to sound rude towards you. I respect all possible approaches to religion and science.
I really wanted to ask whether there were lots of creationists outside the US.
December 9th, 2004  
Anya1982
 
 

Topic: ??


I wouldn't know cus I'm from UK
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Boots
December 9th, 2004  
Italian Guy
 
 
Yeah, I'll try do some research then. So are you one?
December 9th, 2004  
Anya1982
 
 

Topic: RC


I a roman catholic.............went to a convent school...............you know what they say lol

My father is a deacon
December 9th, 2004  
Italian Guy
 
 

Topic: Re: RC


Quote:
Originally Posted by Anya1982
I a roman catholic.............went to a convent school...............you know what they say lol

My father is a deacon
Sure I know. I now understand many things, then.
December 9th, 2004  
Italian Guy
 
 
I just could find that there'a roughly 1 million creationalists in the US (among which are 5% of the national scientists).
December 10th, 2004  
A Can of Man
 
 
Who's to say God didn't create evolution?
A strange belief with many people is that things by God must go *poof!* and not neccessarily make any logical sense. Why's that? If anyone understands the need for things to develop over time, it should be an Eternal Being of all things.
From a a bunch of protein into wonderful, fascinating creatures and eventually when the time was right, people themselves.
Why not? Why is this a problem? Why is it that some people take these "days" in the bible litterally?

I believe it is by design.
December 13th, 2004  
jasonparker
 
The Ever-missing Links

According to the theory of evolution, every living species has emerged from a predecessor. One species which existed previously turned into something else over time and all species have come into being in this way. According to the theory, this transformation proceeds gradually over millions of years.

If this were the case, then innumerable intermediate species should have lived during the immense period of time when these transformations were supposedly occurring. For instance, there should have lived in the past some half-fish/half-reptile creatures which had acquired some reptilian traits in addition to the fish traits they already had. Or there should have existed some reptile/bird creatures, which had acquired some avian traits in addition to the reptilian traits they already possessed. Evolutionists refer to these imaginary creatures, which they believe to have lived in the past, as "transitional forms".

If such animals had really existed, there would have been millions, even billions, of them. More importantly, the remains of these creatures should be present in the fossil record. The number of these transitional forms should have been even greater than that of present animal species, and their remains should be found all over the world. In The Origin of Species, Darwin accepted this fact and explained:

If my theory be true, numberless intermediate varieties, linking most closely all of the species of the same group together must assuredly have existed... Consequently evidence of their former existence could be found only amongst fossil remains.23

Even Darwin himself was aware of the absence of such transitional forms. He hoped that they would be found in the future. Despite his optimism, he realised that these missing intermediate forms were the biggest stumbling-block for his theory. That is why he wrote the following in the chapter of the The Origin of Species entitled "Difficulties of the Theory":

…Why, if species have descended from other species by fine gradations, do we not everywhere see innumerable transitional forms? Why is not all nature in confusion, instead of the species being, as we see them, well defined?… But, as by this theory innumerable transitional forms must have existed, why do we not find them embedded in countless numbers in the crust of the earth?… But in the intermediate region, having intermediate conditions of life, why do we not now find closely-linking intermediate varieties? This difficulty for a long time quite confounded me.24

The only explanation Darwin could come up with to counter this objection was the argument that the fossil record uncovered so far was inadequate. He asserted that when the fossil record had been studied in detail, the missing links would be found.

Believing in Darwin's prophecy, evolutionist paleontologists have been digging up fossils and searching for missing links all over the world since the middle of the 19th century. Despite their best efforts, no transitional forms have yet been uncovered. All the fossils unearthed in excavations have shown that, contrary to the beliefs of evolutionists, life appeared on earth all of a sudden and fully-formed. Trying to prove their theory, evolutionists have instead unwittingly caused it to collapse.

A famous British paleontologist, Derek V. Ager, admits this fact even though he is an evolutionist:

The point emerges that if we examine the fossil record in detail, whether at the level of orders or of species, we find-over and over again-not gradual evolution, but the sudden explosion of one group at the expense of another.25

Another evolutionist paleontologist Mark Czarnecki comments as follows:

A major problem in proving the theory has been the fossil record; the imprints of vanished species preserved in the Earth's geological formations. This record has never revealed traces of Darwin's hypothetical intermediate variants - instead species appear and disappear abruptly, and this anomaly has fueled the creationist argument that each species was created by God.26

These gaps in the fossil record cannot be explained by saying that sufficient fossils have not yet been found, but that they one day will be. Another American scholar, Robert Wesson, states in his 1991 book Beyond Natural Selection, that "the gaps in the fossil record are real and meaningful". He elaborates this claim in this way:

The gaps in the record are real, however. The absence of a record of any important branching is quite phenomenal. Species are usually static, or nearly so, for long periods, species seldom and genera never show evolution into new species or genera but replacement of one by another, and change is more or less abrupt.27
December 13th, 2004  
atheer
 
amm what is evloution..?