What would the world be like if Germany won World War II? - Page 5




 
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April 4th, 2006  
redcoat
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by yingying
if germany won ,i think there is no me here to post in this forum.
I think that could apply to a lot of us yingying.
April 6th, 2006  
FULLMETALJACKET
 
 
we would have mustaches.
May 3rd, 2006  
Ollie Garchy
 
 
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Originally Posted by yingying
if germany won ,i think there is no me here to post in this forum.
This point is strange. It should read: If Japan won, few Chinese would be around or capable of reading an internet post. This is just my way of saying that people take Hitler's Lebensraum notions too far. When did the National Socialists even mention China? In what context? The instrumentalization of Nazism by the non-European world (ie. Bush is Hitler, etc.) is just plain strange.
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May 4th, 2006  
Damien435
 
 
See, here's the thing, Hitler would not have been able to defeat the United States, what besides my patriotism could provoke such a statement you ask? Well I don't know but I do have a justification.
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Originally Posted by Author Unknown
To rule the seas is to rule the world.
While the U-boats may have been formitable against unarmed merchant vessels they are pretty much useless in escorting a surface fleet that would be used to launch an invasion against a nation 3,000 miles away. The US Navy, if memory serves me correct, was the second largest navy prior to WWII (Second to Britain but just ahead of France) and the largest after WWII (Second to none, obvisouly) and unlike Germany we had a large surface fleet, while we only had a handful of carriers prior to WWII our industrial capabilities were unmatched by any other nations and by the end of the war we had over 200 carriers (that number includes the "Tin Cans" escort carriers that only had about six carriers each). Any invasion Hitler would hope to launch in his own lifetime would almost certainly do so with inadequate air support and would be chewed to pieces by the Army Air Corps assuming it made it passed the US Navy (which I find unlikely).

Now, I read the first few pages of "In The Presense of Mine Enemies" by Harry Turtledove and although I have always likes his work I had to put the book back and buy another one. In the first few pages it stated that the United States paid a yearly tribute to Germany to presumably pay for their "protection" because Germany had several bases on American soil and "the Americans would complain but they would still pay, if not the Panzers in those bases would start rolling out." Now, let me explain something to everyone here, Americans did not want to become involved with WWII because it wasn't our war, it was a European war, let them deal with, but once it became our war started kicking left and right. America would not have permitted Germany to build bases on our soil and certainly not so near to our major cities (the book stated these bases were near New York City, Washington D.C. and Los Angeles).

BTW, Ollie Garchy, the questions is "If Hitler had won WWII" keyword: world.
May 4th, 2006  
Italian Guy
 
 
If Germany had won WW2 it would mean it would have defeated the US as well, right?
May 4th, 2006  
Damien435
 
 
Two words: Atomic Bomb.
May 4th, 2006  
Italian Guy
 
 
Oh man, you guys are confused. This is not a Nazi Germany vs USA thread, this has already happened.
The thread asks: "What would the world be like if Hitler had won?".
It means guessing the US, UK and USSR combined were not able to defeat Hitler. No nukes, nothing.
Now, what would the world be like???
That is the thread. I mean it might prove hard for Americans to even imagine such a scenario but this is an effort of fantasy and imagination. Come on.
May 4th, 2006  
Damien435
 
 
Well then the world would be a highly radioactive place, with all the nukes that America would tried to use on Germany.
May 4th, 2006  
Italian Guy
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien435
Well then the world would be a highly radioactive place, with all the nukes that America would tried to use on Germany.
Now this is a good answer .
Guess I can't argue with that.
May 5th, 2006  
Ollie Garchy
 
 
RESPONSE TO "BTW, Ollie Garchy, the questions is "If Hitler had won WWII" keyword: world".

(1) The US had 2 nukes in August 1945 with more in production. Good point, however, the mythical German invasion of the United States was a non-starter.

(2) The German military was incapable of an attack against the United States...nor did any real planning exist. For godsakes, no real planning for an invasion of Britain existed until military realities pressed the issue. German generals generally abhored the idea. So did Hitler...who, if you read what he stated, wanted a continental German empire alongside the British empire. This being the case, physical world domination has no place in serious discourse...it is just folklore.

Nor did Nazi theory even advance the idea. All of the bizarre arguments supposing Hitler's quest for world domination forget the following: Hitler defined world domination in the sense of the British Empire...ie. a core region that extended great power influence into the periphery.

THEREFORE, any thinking concerning a Nazi world has to agree that a large German core region would have dominated Europe and exerted a tremendous pull on global affairs. Forget such stupid notions as global genocide or other ridiculous concepts that no Nazi even entertained.

In fact, Nazi theory seemed more akin to American developments and the creation of a unipolar world system. Aborginal genocide + Continenal expansion built on slavery + Monroe Doctrine + Truman Doctrine + Bush. Empires use compliant states to cement their power. There is no evidence to suggest that the Nazis rejected the assistance of allies. Actually, the evidence suggests that the opposite was true.

Read Stoakes, "Hitler and the Quest for World Domination".