What about Israelís nuclear weapons? - Page 2




 
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September 24th, 2012  
VDKMS
 
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Originally Posted by senojekips
You damned cretin, what planet do you live on?

I seem to remember you trying to tell me that your filthy government did not censor the news to it's citizens. Well, for your information Mordechai Vanunu told the rest of the world in 1986, about 20 years before you were born.
Mordechai Vanunu also said that Israel was behind the JF Kennedy assassination.

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Originally Posted by senojekips
If you are not in denial, you are obviously an idiot, ignorant or just a plain bald faced liar? So typical of your type.

Vanunu spilled the beans 26 years ago, he was charged with treason and found guilty, which means that what he said must have been true. So the fact is proven, had he not disclosed state secrets he would have been found innocent. Unless of course your third world government kidnaps and imprisons innocent people?
You seem to mix up a nuclear weapons program with a nuclear weapons arsenal. Vanunu never proved there was a nuclear weapon, he did shot some photo's of a nuclear weapons program.

If we follow your logic then Iran already has nuclear weapons.

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Originally Posted by hamidreza
Jordan is a country who is poor with natural resources side except that Uranium resources and they have about 2 or 3 percent of the world Uranium resources as I can remember. They import energy from their neighbors and they pay a lot of money for it so they have decided to build a nuclear power plant in their country to save their money in this way.

Recently the king of Jordan accused Israel of disrupting Jordan's nuclear energy plans:

http://www.nuclearpowerdaily.com/rep...plans_999.html

Isn't it really a joke ? Israel, an illegitimate regime in the ME who cant prove who her mother and father are, a country who has nuclear weapons, a country who isn't a member of IAEA and hasn't singed NPT treaty, prevents other country to reach their legitimate rights.
I am sure the US is behind Israel because Israel doesn't have such influence but the king of Jordan didn't dare to accuse the US.
Well it is a good award for a leader (in fact his father) who signed peace accord with Israel and betrayed to his people and the ME people ideals .
But my question is couldn't we consider it an insult and disrespect to the people of a country who want to have their legitimate rights? because some other countries have recognized Jordan people are not qualified to have nuclear energy while they can have nuclear energy or even thousands nukes?
I would be so glad the people who want to protest against violence in Muslims countries answer my question.
Who's the culprit?
The one who didn't sign the NPT or the one who did sign and violates it?

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Up until today there is no proof that Israel has nuclear weapons, but everyone thinks they do have them.
September 24th, 2012  
BritinBritain
 
 
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Originally Posted by VDKMS
You seem to mix up a nuclear weapons program with a nuclear weapons arsenal. Vanunu never proved there was a nuclear weapon, he did shot some photo's of a nuclear weapons program.
So you admit there is a nuclear weapons program?

However, read what Cartman actually said:-
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Originally Posted by Cartman
im not in denial
i think we have nuclear weapons and actually im pretty sure. but israel never tested any nuclear weapon and didnt admit in the possession of any nuclear weapon. so he cant say "what about israel nuclear weapons?" because there is no proof to any nuclear weapons in israel arsenal.
That doesn't say nuclear program, its says NUCLEAR "WEAPONS." And actually he is pretty sure they have them. His words not ours. But of course being pro Zionist you will come up with some claptrap.

As you are so pro Zionist are you trying to emigrate to Israel?
September 24th, 2012  
Capt Frogman
 
 
Anyone who says Israel has no nuclear capabilities is deluded.
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September 24th, 2012  
senojekips
 
 
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Originally Posted by VDKMS
Mordechai Vanunu also said that Israel was behind the JF Kennedy assassination.
And was he charged and imprisoned for that?... No.

I'll say this much, "Cartman and you deserve one another" You both live in a parallel universe.
September 25th, 2012  
VDKMS
 
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Originally Posted by BritinAfrica
So you admit there is a nuclear weapons program?
I don't admit anything. I've always said I think they have nuclear weapons. But there's no irrefutable evidence to back that.

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However, read what Cartman actually said:-


That doesn't say nuclear program, its says NUCLEAR "WEAPONS." And actually he is pretty sure they have them. His words not ours. But of course being pro Zionist you will come up with some claptrap.
"Pretty sure" is not equal to "have". Bush was pretty sure to find WMD in Iraq.

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As you are so pro Zionist are you trying to emigrate to Israel?
No, but Panama seems to be a good country for pensioners.

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Originally Posted by Capt Frogman
Anyone who says Israel has no nuclear capabilities is deluded.
And that is based on what evidence?

BTW, "everyone says so" is not evidence.

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Originally Posted by senojekips
And was he charged and imprisoned for that?... No.

I'll say this much, "Cartman and you deserve one another" You both live in a parallel universe.
No Seno , we live in a universe were facts and evidence rules, not opinions.

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Like I said before, the whole world thinks ( are pretty sure, convinced, ...) that Israel has nuclear weapons, me and Cartman included.

But up intil today there is no hard evidence found.

As far as I know Israel does not own weapons that are not tested. There has been no nuclear test done by Israel. So if they have made the nuclear weapons themselves they do not know if they will work.

The US does not deliver nuclear weapons to allies without keeping the finger on the trigger.

Third possibility (what I think) , Israel was allowed by the US to perform a nuclear test in one of their facilities (or was it France?)
September 25th, 2012  
Capt Frogman
 
 
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Originally Posted by VDKMS
And that is based on what evidence?

BTW, "everyone says so" is not evidence.
The facts pretty much point in the direction that they do.
September 26th, 2012  
MontyB
 
 
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Originally Posted by Capt Frogman
The facts pretty much point in the direction that they do.
Just to prod the hornets nest a bit I found this on another site...

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjGuRVw1KMY"]Israel Lobbyist suggests False Flag attack needed to start war with Iran - YouTube[/ame]
September 26th, 2012  
senojekips
 
 
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Originally Posted by VDKMS
No Seno , we live in a universe were facts and evidence rules, not opinions.
The only thing wrong with that, is that your "facts" are mostly Israeli fabrications.

Vanunu was charged and convicted of treason. That confirms that he was obviously telling the truth. If it were not, it would not have been treason.
September 26th, 2012  
BritinBritain
 
 
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Originally Posted by VDKMS
I don't admit anything. I've always said I think they have nuclear weapons. But there's no irrefutable evidence to back that.
I've never actually seen nukes in British arsenals, but I'd bet a pound to a pound of doggy do, they exist.

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Originally Posted by VDKMS
"Pretty sure" is not equal to "have". Bush was pretty sure to find WMD in Iraq.
How do you know Bush was sure, did you ask him? Or was he sure because others told him?

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Originally Posted by VDKMS
No, but Panama seems to be a good country for pensioners.
I'm surprised that you are not saving your Shekels to be on the first available El Al flight to Tel Aviv. Israel could use you as a bullsh!tter, sorry I mean spin doctor


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Originally Posted by VDKMS
And that is based on what evidence?
How do you know there is no evidence, have you inside information from spook or Military Agencies. You don't

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Originally Posted by VDKMS
BTW, "everyone says so" is not evidence.
No one has said "Everyone says so," those are your words.

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Originally Posted by VDKMS
No Seno , we live in a universe were facts and evidence rules, not opinions.
No you don't, you live in a little world of your own.

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Originally Posted by VDKMS
Like I said before, the whole world thinks ( are pretty sure, convinced, ...) that Israel has nuclear weapons, me and Cartman included.
You say there is no evidence that Israel has nukes, yet you are convinced they have them??

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Originally Posted by VDKMS
But up intil today there is no hard evidence found.

As far as I know Israel does not own weapons that are not tested. There has been no nuclear test done by Israel. So if they have made the nuclear weapons themselves they do not know if they will work.
They don't have them, yet they do and don't know if they work????? I have no idea what your smoking, but you need to give it up.

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Originally Posted by VDKMS
The US does not deliver nuclear weapons to allies without keeping the finger on the trigger.
I thought the idea was to keep the finger OFF of the trigger

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Originally Posted by VDKMS
Third possibility (what I think) , Israel was allowed by the US to perform a nuclear test in one of their facilities (or was it France?)
And now you think that Israel HAS performed a nuclear test????
September 26th, 2012  
senojekips
 
 
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Originally Posted by VDKMS
No Seno , we live in a universe were facts and evidence rules, not opinions.
Vanunu was charged and convicted of treason. That confirms that he was obviously telling the truth. If it were not, it would not have been treason.

I suppose there is one way to find out, the US can invade Israel on the grounds that they do have WMDs, just as they did in Iraq.
 


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