The War on Religion in the US - Page 4




 
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January 24th, 2005  
Anya1982
 
 
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Originally Posted by 03USMC
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Originally Posted by Strongbow
Conservative Christian groups in the US have found a new sinner to rage against: SpongBob Squarepants, a childrens character.

Focus on the Family and and the American Family Association, insist that the character is spearheading an insidious campaign to spread homosexuality among children.

"Does anybody here know Spongebob?" Dr James Dobson, Focus on the Family's founder, asked guests this week at a dinner in Washington for Republican congressmen.

Dr Dobson accused SpongeBob's creators of enlisting him in a "prohomosexual video".

It is not the first time that children's TV favourites have come under the critical spotlight of the US Christian right. Tinky Winky, the purse-toting purple Teletubbie, was in the 1999 declared a homosexual role model by Jerry Falwell.

Excerpts from an article by Tom Leonard, Telegraph, Reuters.

& 03USMC

Jerry Falwell's group is making billions in South America.

The US Christian right has got the Republicans by the "you know whats".
I watch Spongebob with my three year old so I really could care less what a bunch of fundamentalists say about a cartoon character. I've never had much use for Falwell nor his organization. But just for the Record and so you know what religion to assail when addressing me I'm Roman Catholic. Which goes to explaining why I don't care for Falwell.

I also have a hard time believing the claim that Billions are being made in South America. I've been there several times and cannot envision where all that money is coming from.
I agree with USMC but it's funny how christians in USA only seem this. But it depends what branch of catholicism your getting at. As i se it there are so many different versions of catholicism only in usa that its hard to believe whats said about what sometimes
January 24th, 2005  
Redneck
 
 
I am a fundamentalist (Baptist), and I do not care much for Falwell either. Just because someone claims to represent a group does not mean that they in fact do. I have a lot of respect for Dr. Dobson, but he is not infallible (nor does he claim to be).



And Anya, just another reminder, your personal opinion does not become fact simply because you post it here (in re your "only U.S. Christians" comment).
January 25th, 2005  
gladius
 
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Originally Posted by Charge_7
It's just the current thing. "Look at me, I'm liberal!" when in fact they are anything but. Pleading for tolerance while being intolerant is mutually exclusive. After awhile when it's lost it's novelty this kind of thing will die down. The core of America hasn't lost their beliefs. Those that think otherwise are living in a fool's paradise.
I totaly agree here.

The core of America is different than what Hollywood or those elitist liberal clusters think, they're lost their own elitist tunnel vision.


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Originally Posted by the_13th_redneck
Religion BAD! Religion BAD! is a very simple way of seeing things.
I agree here too, there is alot that religious organizations do that help alot of people , like feeding the homeless, ect. I'm sure that religion has some bad points, to say its simply bad thats taking it too far, and wrong.

Actualy the biggest muderers of human lives in the 20th century is communist atheism which is based on the fact that there is no God. Withouth somekind of divine morals to stop someone what does it matter if he murders 20 million people, according to that, in the end it really doesn't anyways.

If religion has a long way to go to solve mans problems, think about how much further secular atheism has to do that since this stuff just happened in this century. If fact the top 2 mass murderers in modern history both did not believe that God existed.
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January 25th, 2005  
Anya1982
 
 

Topic: get it right


redneck where did i state a fact? did i actually say fact? no i did not.

I was stating that there are so many branch off's to catholicism aka lutheron/mormon.........these were american founded unless i am wrong.
January 25th, 2005  
RnderSafe
 
 

Topic: Re: get it right


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Originally Posted by Anya1982
I was stating that there are so many branch off's to catholicism aka lutheron/mormon.........these were american founded unless i am wrong.
Neither of those religions are a "branch" of Catholicism.

Mormonism was born of Joseph Smith, formerly a Protestant, during the 19th Century in the US. It is not classified as Protestantism or Catholicism by their standards.

Lutheranism could be called a "branch off" of Catholicism, given Martin Luther "defected" from the Catholic church ... however, it is classified as a Protestant denomination. The Protestant Reformation began during the early 16th Century in Germany (Saxony), so the United States/Americans had nothing at all to do with it.
January 25th, 2005  
Charge 7
 
 
There are only two branches of Catholicism to my knowledge - Roman and Greek Orthodox. Lutheran and Episcopalian churches are close to Catholicism but are classified as Protestant. There are of course areas or shades of Catholicism, if you want to call them that, such as Jesuit or Benedictine. They don't vary enough though from Roman Catholicism enough to be branches in their own right as they very much adhere to the Pope. I'm sure RndrSafe could explain that area much better than I can. Also I believe the Russian Orthodox Catholic church varies somewhat from the original Greek Orthodox. Can't claim to be any kind of expert. Dad was a Lutheran but I was raised in my mom's church - Presbyterian.
January 25th, 2005  
CavScout
 
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Originally Posted by Doody
if you would explain your position, I will comment.

I rarely comment on statements that could be offensive and are not explained rationally.


I only meant that where "faith" is concerned, logic has little sway. By it's nature faith supersedes all else. Hmmm, that still doesn't sound right. What I mean is, if you believe in something, have faith in it, no amount of arguing or counter pointing or fact finding will change that. This is faith in anything, not just religion. Confused now? I am ...
January 26th, 2005  
Missileer
 
 
Belief in any religious doctrine is based on faith. Without faith, then how could there be a belief in a higher being that you can't see or hear. You can't see air or the wind but you have faith in the fact that it has to be there.
January 26th, 2005  
Anya1982
 
 

Topic: hmmm let me think


catholicism in christianity....................

it originally started off with the jews then lead down to catholics this is where it broke off to other christianity's. eg. prot's, methodist,JW's,greek/russian auth.

The list goes on forever and ever.

Sorry if i have repeated my self.

I had this argument before and i was wrong. Well i explained myself wrong.

Either way all these religions could be wrong if da vinci code is proved right! Now thats when the poop hits the fan
January 26th, 2005  
Charge 7
 
 
You're mostly right Anya. However Greek Orthodox Cathocisim didn't break off from Roman Catholocism. They both started out together. Greek Orthodox was like the name says, centered around Greece and the Byzantine Empire and went off on its own from the larger Roman Empire and it was the Western Roman Empire which was what collapsed 1000 years before Byzantium in the 1500s. The Bishop of Rome was held to be the supreme religious authority in the Western Roman world whereas the Emperor was held to be so in the Eastern Roman world - thus the devision.

As for the Da Vinci code, well, I'll need more proof.