Marksman said:I think that CLUSTER BOMBS and NAPALM are prohibited and classified as war crime!!
IrishWizard said:Also I would like to add a fact. When Truman decided to drop the bomb on Hiroshima he had hundreds of planes fly over Hiroshima and drop thousands upon thousands of slips telling them that they need to leave because destruction is coming. They also did this at Nagasaki a day before it was to bombed. So saying the USA bombing those 2 citys as a war crime in a way isn't. We gave them proper warning telling them to leave and they didn't.
Another thing, what was so frightening about the Japanese is that they would not surrender one man. They fought to the death and less than 5,000 soldiers surrendered out of teh entire war in the Pacific! When they knew they were beginning to lose they were training women and children to fire guns and carry live grenades to American troopers. They would of fought to the last Japanese because when it came down to conquering Japan thats what you had to do. Kill every last one of them.
So dropping the bomb on those 2 citys when you think about it took away military troops who would of been used against the U.S. because the Japanese were so desperate. Any comments?
Cool, but I can't get that here I'm afraid.FutureRANGER said:At 2000 hours tonight (Pacific Standard Time) on the History Channel there is a show called "Hiroshima: Decision to Drop the Bomb". It is about exactly what we were discussing.
You do not appear to know true history. Just the cleaned up version. Dresden was 100% intentional with no military target to speak of. Hamburg was also more or less intentional, and the firebombing was set off nowhere near "military targets".spymaster said:When the allies attacked German cities, they were merely targeting valid military targets. These cities consisted of factories, war installations, economic institutions and rail junctions. The Nazis deliberately moved in extra workers to support the war effort.
Let us not judge the bombing campaigns of the forties with the ethical, PGM minded attitudes of the current era
it gave me the impression that you had no idea what you were talking about. The US and UK intentially terror-bombed Germany throughout the war. There were LOTS of intentional targets that were not "valid military targets". At Dresden, the RAF and US intentionally lit the air on fire. It was their intention to kill civilians en mass. It couldn't have been more deliberate. What they had figured out from Hamburg was that you could ignite a massive fire with careful PLANNING and PREPARATION. It required, among other things, the dropping of copius amounts of unlit petrolium jelly to prep the target for ingniting. Then you follow with incendiary bombs to light the whole thing off. The result was a giant pillar of fire that literally sucked people into it, kicking and screaming. Some totals for the deaths at Dresden put the total number of dead well above Nagasaki.When the allies attacked German cities, they were merely targeting valid military targets. These cities consisted of factories, war installations, economic institutions and rail junctions.
1217 said:There's a discussion on my TV set right now, and I was wondering what you people would think.
The statement is roughly: only the losers are war criminals, the winners are judges.
The massive bombing of Berlin and other german cities are war crimes, but because the UK and the USA won that war, nobody was ever charged with them.
By the way, I don't understand that if they call the bombardments in Germany war crimes, they don't mention Heroshima.
Now I'm not saying this is my opinion, just asking for yours for now.
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