Video Games as tools of Recruitment?

Was the Army's decision to invest in military related Video Games such as "America's Army"


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CABAL

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An American soldier is in trouble. He's cut off from the rest of his squad and looking for a way across an exposed rooftop. Terrorists in the desert below are launching grenades at him and his comrades. The soldier takes a deep breath, rolls to his left, springs to his feet and begins to sprint. He's greeted with a blinding flash and a deafening roar as a grenade lands at his feet. Joe Iovino is dead.

No worries, though. Iovino, who's actually a senior at Wharton High School in Tampa, will be good to go again in a couple of minutes, as soon as the rest of his squad completes the mission. Iovino's playing the summer's hottest online game, America's Army, brought to you gratis by, well, America's Army.

The game is an eye-popping, first-person combat simulation two years in the making and takes players from basic training at Fort Benning, Ga., to action in hot spots around the world. Gamers can tackle missions alone on their home PC or join other combatants online.

The Army spent two years and more than $7-million to develop and implement the Windows game as a recruiting tool (a two-disk free home version will be available this month. You can register for a copy or download the online game at www.goarmy.com ).

Iovino, an avid gamer, has been playing America's Army since "the day it came out -- I mean like the very minute," along with about 200,000 other gamers who have registered at the Web site since July 4. He guesses he plays up to four hours a day, then admits with a grin, "I'm running on, like, two hours of sleep."

As he hunts terrorists and handles weapons including M-16s and grenades, he's also getting a not-so-subtle sales pitch from the Army.

Lt. Col. Casey Wardynski, originator and director of the project, says America's Army is a "way to communicate the Army's values and opportunities to today's young Americans. Given the popularity of military games and the ability of a game to be a great medium for both entertainment and education, we believe that the America's Army game will be a very effective and cost-effective communications tool."


[U.S. Army]
It’s not all of the fun and war games: America’s Army characters must attend basic training before competing online.
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No question. Kids love games, and the $7.3-million price tag represents less than one-half of 1 percent of the Army's annual recruiting budget. But is there something kind of creepy about the Army plying recruitment-age teens with a free video game filled with virtual thrills and kills.

There are a dozen missions (more scenarios are planned at regular intervals over the next five years) that portray running and gunning action, but not one that has gamers peeling potatoes in a hot kitchen for 18 hours at a stretch.

"Or scrubbing the bathroom floor with a toothbrush," Iovino said. "That doesn't bother me. I know (if) I go there that's (part of) what I'll be experiencing."

But Dr. Sidney Merin, a Tampa forensic psychologist, says America's Army, which is rated T for Teen, raises some ethical questions. He isn't concerned about the older teens who get the recruiting pitch but about their younger siblings and peers who will likely be exposed to it as well.

"It's nice to think that only this 18-year-old will look at this or play it at home. It doesn't happen that way," Merin said. "You're going to have brothers and sisters and cousins and other kids 11 and 12 and 13 years of age who can't process or truly understand the reasons for this, and do not truly appreciate the difference between reality and this type of fantasy. They know it's fantasy, but they're very, very impressionable."

He also worries that "an arm of the government" has put its stamp of approval on a game that so eloquently depicts "maiming and killing" in a realistic setting.

Merin also says the Army may get more than it bargained for in terms of who responds to the pitch.

"They're using very strong advertising to recruit certain types of personalities, a sort that has an interest in the military, which is perfectly acceptable. But you're also recruiting certain types of individuals who may be less emotionally stable than the military would like to have," Merin said.

The game was developed by the Army and the MOVES Institute at the Naval Post Graduate School in Monterey, Calif. Army experts put the developers through weapons and situational training intensive enough "to keep all our scenarios and missions true to life," Lt. Col. Wardynski said.

The result is an unqualified success from an entertainment standpoint. It's also breathtakingly realistic. Weapons are less accurate on the run than at a standstill, reloading occurs in real time and even breathing affects aim.

And America's Army is a graphic masterpiece, right down to the grimy hands that stretch out in front of you to do your dirty work.

Iovino says the game ranks in his all-time Top 10. "I fell in love with the way it looked the second I saw it," he said. "Everything was real. The guns, the grenades -- it was all there."

Iovino says military service "was a tiny thought in my head at the beginning of this year, but this game was the cherry on top. It has influenced me. I won't lie," and now he's thinking about a hitch in the Army.

Iovino goes back to his game, rejoining his online comrades for another mission. Cornered in a building, he takes several rounds from a terrorist's AK-47 and groans as his character drops to the ground.

"They don't really show you the gruesome part," he said, laughing. "They can't simulate the pain."

- Chip Carter is a syndicated video game columnist who lives in Tampa.

http://www.tamilnation.org/humanrights/childsoldiers.htm

As a once a gamer myself long ago, I rejected this conjecture. But once overhearing conversations and reading interviews done by High School Students and young adults, I'm beginning to show concern.
 
Some Palestinian group have their own answer to "America's Army." It's known as "Special Force."

I've seen a version of it in Korean computer game rooms. Seems rather popular. I never played it, but it may be different from the original version where you fight against the Israelis and blow them up... that's what I heard anyways. Might check it out.
 
I like video games myself, but using it as a recruitment tool is somewhat weird. Games make all this conflict crap fun and im sure it will attract some kids into joining the military, thinking it will be thrilling to be in combat. I wouldn't want those kind of people working with me, thats for sure. So i think that these games attract the wrong bunch of people.
 
It's a pretty good game actually, I play it ocasionally. There are barely any messages like "JOIN THE ARMY NOW!". It's quite subtle, with only a link to the goarmy.com website, and of course the virtual "training" that you undergo they teach you the basic values of the army among other things. I just look at it as a game, not sure how it would affect younger people though.
 
Frankly, I've seen younger kids laughing and awed by the sight of blood, guts, and intense violence. Thankfully, major stores decided to abide to the rating restrictions on certain games but they can still be easily accesible by parents who virtually don't care about the content or they are exposed to them by older siblings.
 
Cabal said:
As a once a gamer myself long ago, I rejected this conjecture. But once overhearing conversations and reading interviews done by High School Students and young adults, I'm beginning to show concern.

I tend to agree with you on this.
 
I know I was drawn towards the military when I was younger watching movies and playing video games... so I think it works, and it's no unethical.
 
wolfen said:
I tend to think that kids now days realize that Americas Army is nothing but a game.

They do, but whenever I play, more often than not I see kids expressing interest and asking all kinds of questions about joining and what its like, etc, and since there are almost always either past or currently serving soldiers playing, there's a lot of information to be gathered. I don't think its unethical at all, it's just another recruiting tool, and probably pretty damn effective, since they're still working on the game, improving it.
 
I just hope its correct information, not a bunch of sea stories.
I can tell the kids at school about some of the things I did in teh Navy and some of the places I went and they'd all join tomorrow morning, but if I tell them all of it, only about half would join.
 
I don't know if its ethical but I think it does work. I think the more kids are conditioned to quickly identify and kill enemies without hesitation in a realistic virtual setting, the better they will be at doing it in the real thing. Mentally you set up an automatic pattern of "see enemy, pull trigger". It also teaches them to work within a team to accomplish objectives during missions, and this is all before they even sign up. I think this gives potential recruits a training edge that was NEVER available to guys in WW1, WW2, and Vietnam. Of course you have to combine this videogame idoctrination with effective real world training programs do do ANY good so if thats lacking then your out of luck no matter how good your videogame skills are. It can be a valuable tool though if used right.

I don't plan on going into the military, but from an indoctrination standpoint I think a lifetime of playing military oriented videogames, playing laser tag as a kid and later paintballas a teenager, has probably given me a grounding and understanding in combat based tactical thinking before I even theoretically 'signed the dotted line', much more so than what my father EVER had when he volunteered for Vietnam in the late 60's. Thats why I think it could be effective.

However, the ethics of this is very hard to get around though. Ethically, as a democracy you cant go overboard and create some kind of quasi-Hitler Youth type indoctination through videogames in order to create better soldiers, but then again I think it WOULD work if applied right. I guess thats the militarys delime is how far you take this type of thing.'
 
I have to agree with the first paragraph, but some of us did get some form training while playing when growing up. This entire thread reminded me that when I was a kid we all had rafts on a big pond, and we teamed up as enemy Navies (ie US Japan, Germany), and basically declared war on the other side for days on end :), we even had floating logs servinng as submarines LOL. Our wepons systems were daisy red rider bb guns, the target to sing the enemy ship was a tin can that was not allowed to be touched, it sat in the middle of the raft and whoever's can was shot into the water first sank LOL

(can you say were were bored?)

The Army games were way more intresting
 
i have to agree, many people are swayed towards the video game industry. In fact, many people can become addicted, video games pose an addiction, and yes, in fact a very important pull in someones life. I think that maybe a teenager without a cause could become engrossed, and of course, sign up arbitrarily. Video games may pose a great marketing advantage to recruitment, but from the news lately, it seems that recruitment was under the army's enlistment qouta. As of now I don't think they are playing a huge piece of the marketing maneuver for enlistment.
 
Not justkids mate, grown people too, I'm a prime example, I'mm adicted to a game called Vega Strike. I have flown cargo missions to some of the best and worst places in the universe :)
 
Yes, this game is propaganda, but it was hard for me to get a hold of. I got it for free out of a PC Gamer Demo disk, the disk was flawed and they refused to refund me or send another copy. When I joined the Army I was given a copy and told to play it, that disk also did not work, al though I do believe I might have something to do with that one because I put it on the front seat of my car and it sat in the sun for a few hours. :s Then finally I went to the Army recruiting station and asked for a copy. It is a fun game, the training IMO closely resembles that of what a soldier will go through. (At least it is more accurate than any other game I have played.) Moral of my story? If this game is meant to be a recruiting tool then why was it so hard for me to get a working copy?!?! The recruiters at school don't even hand it out for free.

And do we really want people joining the Army because of a video game? I know I joined because I felt that I owe my country for everything it has given me, I want to serve my country and help to protect my friends and loved ones and most of all I have a family history of serving in the military/government/police force and I wanted to keep that tradition alive. (I had a grandpa who fought in WWII for the Army, another for the Navy, one fought in Korea for the Army and another was in the 101st. Also, I have a cousin who works for the defense department in St. Louis, another cousin in the FBI, a cousin and an uncle who are police officers.)
 
a new game Battlefield 2 is coming out...


i am always a fan of Battlefield series, from 1942, to Vietnam


new Battlefield 2 got all the state-of-art equipments in today's world among U.S CHina, and a fictional Middle-east coliation (using mostly new Russian equipments)

a pretty cool game, and definately worth to spend money on
 
Ok this thread is about questiong whether games are considered as a recruitment tool.

If you want to advertise BF2, do it in the computer/games Category.
 
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even if the army did spend money on this we cant be goin and gettin all mad.....because it in all is a persons choice to buy the game and play the game. :firedevi:

and if you want to get technicall its the parents fault. it is my choice to play that awsome game. it is my choice to join the millitary.
 
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