Venezuelan Middle Class Flees - Page 4




 
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Venezuelan Middle Class Flees
 
April 17th, 2006  
5.56X45mm
 
 
Venezuelan Middle Class Flees
21, but my grandparents are still alive.

And many of the older folks that came here during the 1960s have informed me of Cuba's Pre Castro History.
April 17th, 2006  
G-Capo
 
 
This is very sad.Colombia and the US started a coup in 2002 but it failed.Know this fool is going the way Fidel went...God help them.
April 18th, 2006  
Ted
 
 
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Originally Posted by 5.56X45mm
21, but my grandparents are still alive.

And many of the older folks that came here during the 1960s have informed me of Cuba's Pre Castro History.
But this is also the group that fled for Castro (however justified, because they were in peril). These peopel are more likely to say that Batista's days were better.... Not to insult you, but to ask political refugees to give an objective view on the land that they fled.... well, that is harldy possible.

I grant you that economically things went down the drain, but a developmental indicator is also the form of governance. And one can hardly say that Batista was a democratic, public opinion loving, care taker of the predicament of the political opponents.
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Venezuelan Middle Class Flees
April 18th, 2006  
Rabs
 
 
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public opinion loving, care taker of the predicament of the political opponents.
Shall we atke a public opinion poll of now under castros leadership. And at almost all times during history, good economy = happienss.
April 18th, 2006  
Ted
 
 
Well you are right initially. Take Singapore for example. They have "good governance" and a good economy tied to stringent rules. More and more rumours get out though, that the affluent people of Singapore would like more civil liberties. What good is money when you are hemmed in on all the things you can spend in on?
Besides I know that Castro hasn't been the blessing he proclaims to be... actually he's quite far off the mark. That is beyond a debate, but I am saying the things weren't peachy under Batista either. The point I picked up was: a)the economy was better under Batista, therefor automatically b) people were happier under Batista.

Things might have been true for some, but this were generally the people who ended up fleeing the country when Castro came to power.
April 18th, 2006  
bulldogg
 
 
If things had been perfect there would have been no revolution.

But do tell how many people risked the shark infested waters in home made rafts trying to get to the USA during Batista's reign??
April 18th, 2006  
Missileer
 
 
The "open gate" theory wins every time.
April 18th, 2006  
Italian Guy
 
 
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Originally Posted by Ted
Things might have been true for some, but this were generally the people who ended up fleeing the country when Castro came to power.
Same thing happened in Viet Nam and Albania, where people fled the communist paradises to find shelter and freedom in the capitalist countries.
Only thing is: It is not automatic that those who fled were those who wanted to flee and those who remained wanted to remain. There were people with not enough money to pay for the boat, to corrupt the cop, there were people who didn't want to leave some dear one in jail. There were handicapped people who could not leave. Not every father could risk the life of their newborn babies. Not everyone lived in areas that were by to the ocean or had contacts with boat owners. Hence you can't really say they "were generally the people who ended up fleeing the country". Those who stay can't be heard, and you fall for Castro's game.
Do we have stories of hundreds of thousands of boat-people fleeing Batista's Cuba?
April 19th, 2006  
tomtom22
 
 
I agree, Chavez is going the route of Castro and Cuba.
April 19th, 2006  
bulldogg
 
 
I wonder what Venezuela's neighbours think about it all.