Originally Posted by 3dgeo

Well how about the survivors website

Here's liberty survivors site:
www.ussliberty.org

I hope you are not waiting for an answer, Phoenix80 has been gone for ages.

LOL! Boy I love them nembies! Talking to ghosts! ROFL!

Originally Posted by Hmmm

LOL! Boy I love them nembies! Talking to ghosts! ROFL!

Would you care to elaborate.

I have googled the word "nembies" and nothing that comes up make any sense in relation to this thread.

"Talking to Ghosts"? once again, what are you talking about in relation to this thread.

Originally Posted by senojekips

Would you care to elaborate.

I have googled the word "nembies" and nothing that comes up make any sense in relation to this thread.

"Talking to Ghosts"? once again, what are you talking about in relation to this thread.

It's called a Tiepoe.

I figure he's talking to ghosts since that guy Phoenix80- ain't around no mo.

Originally Posted by Hmmm

It's called a Tiepoe.

I figure he's talking to ghosts since that guy Phoenix80- ain't around no mo.

Thank you for your explanation! I read you loud and clear.

I read somewhere that Israel attacked USS Liberty after they witnessed the murder of 60 Egyptian POWs, I'm not sure though.

Originally Posted by ScarabVenom

I read somewhere that Israel attacked USS Liberty after they witnessed the murder of 60 Egyptian POWs, I'm not sure though.

I dunno that we'll ever find out the real reason as the US administration of the time seemed as anxious to cover it up as the Israelis were.

Personally my own theory is that the Israelis knew the Liberty was only lightly armed and hoped that they could sink it quickly before they were identified, blame the Egyptians and bring the US into their war.

One only has to read the accounts of the Israelis and the "Official" US investigation, then compare them with the crew's accounts and it soon becomes blatantly obvious that there is a whitewash.

There was also the report of a disaffected Israeli pilot who stated that he informed his controllers that the vessel was a US warship, but was ordered to continue the attack.

Fifteen years after the attack, an Israeli pilot approached Liberty survivors and then held extensive interviews with former Congressman Paul N. (Pete) McCloskey about his role. According to this senior Israeli lead pilot, he recognized the Liberty as American immediately, so informed his headquarters, and was told to ignore the American flag and continue his attack. He refused to do so and returned to base, where he was arrested.
Later, a dual-citizen Israeli major told survivors that he was in an Israeli war room where he heard that pilot's radio report. The attacking pilots and everyone in the Israeli war room knew that they were attacking an American ship, the major said. He recanted the statement only after he received threatening phone calls from Israel.

Originally Posted by senojekips

I dunno that we'll ever find out the real reason as the US administration of the time seemed as anxious to cover it up as the Israelis were.

Personally my own theory is that the Israelis knew the Liberty was only lightly armed and hoped that they could sink it quickly before they were identified, blame the Egyptians and bring the US into their war.

One only has to read the accounts of the Israelis and the "Official" US investigation, then compare them with the crew's accounts and it soon becomes blatantly obvious that there is a whitewash.

There was also the report of a disaffected Israeli pilot who stated that he informed his controllers that the vessel was a US warship, but was ordered to continue the attack.

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Yeah, you might be right. I also don't understand how America would allow anybody to mess with it. I think it's because people in the administration by the time felt closer to Israel more than just an ally. Or maybe America needs Israel as an ally to maintain power through it so, they don't want to ruin the friendship or alliance between them. If it was an Arabic country, I believe America would involve militarily right away. In case they tried to cover up the 60 Egyptian POWs we have stronger proof of burying 250 Egyptian POWs alive after making them dig their own graves.

I haven't been through all the pages here in this thread, so it may have been mentioned before, but...
Back in the days of -67 the bonds between Israel and the USA wasn't that tight, Israel relying more upon French, and to some extent British, support in many ways.
No doubth the US administration was eager to gain a foothold in the Middle-East, and that could explain why the USS Liberty-case was covered up so willingly.

Gonagle deserved far better treatment than he got, but as a loyal officer he kept his tongue and mind in leash

As for the Israeli reasons for the attack on the USS Liberty, one can only speculate.

Originally Posted by senojekips

I dunno that we'll ever find out the real reason as the US administration of the time seemed as anxious to cover it up as the Israelis were.

Personally my own theory is that the Israelis knew the Liberty was only lightly armed and hoped that they could sink it quickly before they were identified, blame the Egyptians and bring the US into their war.

One only has to read the accounts of the Israelis and the "Official" US investigation, then compare them with the crew's accounts and it soon becomes blatantly obvious that there is a whitewash.

There was also the report of a disaffected Israeli pilot who stated that he informed his controllers that the vessel was a US warship, but was ordered to continue the attack.

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Again your quote is baseless and comes from anti-israeli websites. Again you swallowed it without looking at official documents.

That quote is very easily to counter because there was an investigation of the House Armed Services Committee in June 1991. Clearly they would have gotten the information you mention. The result of that investigation : no evidence for a deliberate attack.

This article from the BBC is more neutral : Why did Israel attack USS Liberty?

An even better report is this one : A Lie That Deserves to Die

Here's the info from the NSA:

On 08 June 2007, the National Security Agency (NSA) finalized the review of all material relative to the 08 June 1967 attack on the USS Liberty. This additional release adds to the collection of documents and audio recordings and transcripts previously posted to the site on 02 July 2003.

you can find it here.

The Audio Recordings & Transcripts are here.

But like always, when the truth arrives the damage is already done.