Originally Posted by senojekips

They paid US$6million, of the $40million asked for by the US, The damage to the vessel was estimated to be about $7million, so what they paid did not even cover the cost of the material damage done. As a result, the ship was scrapped.



I do not know if the crew actually got any of this money.

Any decent resercher of USS Liberty uncident can find on internet that Israeli Government paid nearly $13 million settlement reparations to the US Government and the families of the victims of the USS Liberty.The case was officially closed by both states. http://inyourface.info/ArT/Alpha/UsL.shtml

Originally Posted by greg2k

Any decent resercher of USS Liberty uncident can find on internet that Israeli Government paid nearly $13 million settlement reparations to the US Government and the families of the victims of the USS Liberty.The case was officially closed by both states. http://inyourface.info/ArT/Alpha/UsL.shtml

Not really true i'm afraid. Even a very mediocre researcher can find out a lot more than that.

Actually the US taxpayers paid ALL of the the reparations,... plus a whole lot more.

U.S. TAXPAYERS PAID ALL THAT WAS PAID!
An arrangement was agreed to by Israel only after U.S. aid to Israel was increased from $13 million in Fiscal Year 1967 to a whopping $76.8 million in Fiscal Year 1968. That aid increase took care of negotiations for the crew, dead and wounded. These payments were made with U.S. Government checks in late Spring, 1968.
Israel then refused to pay for the LIBERTY damage. The United States government then increased the aid to Israel to $121.7 million for FY 1969. The new negotiations began and Israel agreed to pay $7.6 million damages for the $40 million ship which was sold for less than $200,000.00 as scrap. But Israel DID NOT PAY as promised when U.S. aid was cut to $71 million for FY 1970, even though that was still five times the U.S. aid of 1967. And the bill remained unpaid (and not deducted from the increased U.S. aid). Source:http://www.eutimes.net/2008/06/israe...e-uss-liberty/

The case was "officially" closed with indecent haste, unfortunately we can only guess at the reason why an act which would normally have been investigated much more thoroughly was shut down so quickly. This question has also been raised by many others.

Originally Posted by senojekips

Not really true i'm afraid. Even a very mediocre researcher can find out a lot more than that.

Actually the US taxpayers paid ALL of the the reparations,... plus a whole lot more.
The case was "officially" closed with indecent haste, unfortunately we can only guess at the reason why an act which would normally have been investigated much more thoroughly was shut down so quickly. This question has also been raised by many others.

You are a funny fellow,I am saying victims were paid for damages and you are saying american taxpayer paid the bill.Is not it funny? Does it matter who paid to them?Can you or somebody else prove that US taxpayers paid the biil?You are trying to mix together the USS Liberty case with US military or economic aid to Israel? What sailors has in common with US aid to Israel?Anything or nothing?Try to explain to me this part.Sailors were paid and this is the case.If someone doesn't agree on the settlement,he simply doesn't accept settlement.In any case sailors can return money to the Government of Israel with interest for all these years and start the case all over again.

....the guy that claimed we'd accuse Israel of WW1, even though Israel didn't exist when WW1 happened. Man, I just can't stop laughing at that one!

Originally Posted by greg2k

You are a funny fellow,I am saying victims were paid for damages and you are saying american taxpayer paid the bill.Is not it funny? Does it matter who paid to them?.... etc

I did write a reply, but deleted it, because it would have led to me being banned.

All I will say is that your flippant disregard for the lives of the dead and wounded in this cowardly attack is typical of the Israeli's and their supporters.

Originally Posted by Hmmm

....the guy that claimed we'd accuse Israel of WW1, even though Israel didn't exist when WW1 happened. Man, I just can't stop laughing at that one!

The actual article was taken from the "Liberty News" published by the USS Liberty survivors http://www.davidduke.com/general/spe...iors_4008.html

No mention is made of WWI

Originally Posted by senojekips

All I will say is that your flippant disregard for the lives of the dead and wounded in this cowardly attack is typical of the Israeli's and their supporters.

The actual article was taken from the "Liberty News" published by the USS Liberty survivors http://www.davidduke.com/general/spe...iors_4008.html

Let me ask you something...do you know about Leo Frank? Probably not...so read about him here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Frank.He was american jew who was accused for raping of a white girl in America and he was linched by the mobs in 1915,and he was innocent.So now let me ask you should the jews forget about this case or remember it? Tell me who paid reparation to his family and to the jewish people for his death?Give me your answer.And yes, this KKK member David Duke is a 'best friend' of Israel and black people,sure.

When exactly was Leo Frank a crew member of the USS Liberty?

If you have a beef with the US Legal system, you had better take it up with them.

Jews alone should not remember the case, everyone should remember it. It makes no difference whether he was a Jew, Black, Green or piebald, and his family should have been recompensed for this act, but it has nothing whatsoever to do with an act of war between two countries. No doubt there have been many innocent men killed in America, nothing at all to do with the subject at hand.

Actually the whole thing sounds more like an act of the KKK, and there the similarity with Israel's cowardly attack, ends.

assuming the attack was deliberate, here are the main qs.

1) why would israel attack one of its only supporters in the middle of a war?
2) what would the purpose of the attack have been?
3) if it was deliberate why would America try to cover up the attack? why would they say it was an accident?

let the theories roll...

Originally Posted by benaakatz

assuming the attack was deliberate, here are the main qs.

1) why would israel attack one of its only supporters in the middle of a war?
2) what would the purpose of the attack have been?
3) if it was deliberate why would America try to cover up the attack? why would they say it was an accident?

let the theories roll...

1. This is what pretty much everyone has been trying to figure out.

2. The theory is that if the ship was sunk by "unidentified" attackers who is the USA more likely to believe attacked it, its ally Israel or the Russian equipped Egypt?

3. That one is easy, Israel was pretty much the USA's only ally in the middle east at the time, making it public that a botched attempt to drag the USA into a war by framing the opposition and killing US servicemen probably would not have gone down well in the USA and any reprisals from the USA would have opened the door for the Soviet Union to improve its standing with Israel.
Something that was politically unpalatable during the height of the cold war, so the answer is to call it an "accident" and throw some money about to shut people up.

Originally Posted by benaakatz

assuming the attack was deliberate, here are the main qs.

1) why would israel attack one of its only supporters in the middle of a war?
2) what would the purpose of the attack have been?
3) if it was deliberate why would America try to cover up the attack? why would they say it was an accident?

let the theories roll...

Q1 & 2. They hoped that they could make it look like an Egyptian attack and draw the US into taking an active part in their war against the Egyptians.
In view of what was known at the time, and even more so now, that is a lot more credible than the story that it was "mistaken identity".

Q3. Global and domestic Political expediency,
(a) To not upset the very powerful domestic Jewish vote.
(b) To maintain a toe hold in the Middle East.

Originally Posted by The Jerusalem Centre for Public Affairs

American Jews wield power through their high concentration in key states, and their tendency to behave as a swing vote in ways that set them apart from virtually all other groups in American politics.

Why Israel still matters in US Elections.

American Jews not only have a swing vote - a constituency that can be swayed in any direction - they also have a swing issue: support for Israel. The evidence shows that when the Jewish community judges a candidate to be distinctly problematic on Israel, it will desert that candidate or his party in decisive numbers. This shift can be so significant that it could easily decide the outcome in a swing state in a close election like that of 2000. Source:. http://www.jcpa.org/jl/vp446.htm