tommy_gunn
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F15 And F18 is for me the better planes. like the F22 but for that price no thank you
USAF generals smash the F-35?
Lunatik
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Still... When actual U.S. Air Force generals claim that the F-35 doesn't have the SURVIVABILITY to take on the long range SAM systems (such as the Russian S-400), I want to take it seriously.
What's the meaning of this?
It's not going to be as stealth as advertised? Won't carry enough firepower? Won't have the timely threat recognition capability? Won't have the maneuverability, range, speed necessary for avading incoming SAMs?
If the answer is "yes" to any of the above questions, I think the guys that run this program will be quite happy...
Advertised as a A2A optimised multirole slash air superiority fighter... The Typhoon. Their portfolio includes Austria, Germany, Italy, Saudi Arabia, Spain, United Kingdom and is expanding... :bored:
What's the meaning of this?
It's not going to be as stealth as advertised? Won't carry enough firepower? Won't have the timely threat recognition capability? Won't have the maneuverability, range, speed necessary for avading incoming SAMs?
If the answer is "yes" to any of the above questions, I think the guys that run this program will be quite happy...
Advertised as a A2A optimised multirole slash air superiority fighter... The Typhoon. Their portfolio includes Austria, Germany, Italy, Saudi Arabia, Spain, United Kingdom and is expanding... :bored:
A Can of Man
Je suis aware
Like we said Lunatik, it's probably just internal politics.
The F-35 can't have a worse RWR system than our current line of fighters and they seem to do a pretty good job of detecting incoming threats.
Also I can't imagine the F-35 not being able to carry at least a pair of AGM-88 HARM missiles internally. At least one. Come on, seriously.
As of stealth capability, I don't think they're pouring this much money into something that's less stealthier than the F-117 and that bird never had any serious issues with penetrating enemy airspace. Yes, one did get shot down over Yugoslavia, but considering how it's never been brought down in any other instance, it could be a fluke.
Maneuverability, range and speed might be factors.
At Mach 1.6, it's not the fastest jet in the world. Its ability to run from unfavorable situations could be limited.
It's got a longer range than the F-16 so I don't think range is much of an issue.
Again, most likely just politics.
The F-35 can't have a worse RWR system than our current line of fighters and they seem to do a pretty good job of detecting incoming threats.
Also I can't imagine the F-35 not being able to carry at least a pair of AGM-88 HARM missiles internally. At least one. Come on, seriously.
As of stealth capability, I don't think they're pouring this much money into something that's less stealthier than the F-117 and that bird never had any serious issues with penetrating enemy airspace. Yes, one did get shot down over Yugoslavia, but considering how it's never been brought down in any other instance, it could be a fluke.
Maneuverability, range and speed might be factors.
At Mach 1.6, it's not the fastest jet in the world. Its ability to run from unfavorable situations could be limited.
It's got a longer range than the F-16 so I don't think range is much of an issue.
Again, most likely just politics.