Unfortunately, we can sit here and criticize and blame until we're blue in the face, but the fact of the matter is that we did go into Iraq, we did try to help those people, and now we do have to take the lickin' on the chin and say that America may have kinda sorta lost one a little bit perhaps.
My question of "What did the US lose?"
Was addressed to your statement
"that America may have kinda sorta lost one."
Apparently you didn't listen to President Obama's speech on Iraq. I did not hear him say the US had lost the War on terror.
I never supported going in to Iraq in the first place.
If Bush had really wanted to make a statement, he should have used a couple of tactical Nukes on a couple of Hussein's Palaces. There would have been some collateral loses but they shouldn't really matter to the US much.
Other countries might have complained, but what the hay, they complain anyway.
I guess you have given up on President Obama from your comments?
We lost "the war on terror," for one. Mainly because that's like fighting air. It will never go away. But Bushie went to college. :roll:
Again, I do not think you listened to President Obama's speech.
By "we" do you mean just the US or the other countries who are fighting the
"War on Terror"
Saddam was keeping the two main factions of Islam in check. Yes, life sucked over there. And guess what? It hasn't gotten a whole lot better 7 years later. Saddam is dead, and life still sucks. WHAT A SHOCKER.
But the United States is now directly involved (again, thanks a lot, Graybush) with the future of Iraq. It was the United States who disrupted everything (remember, Osama wasn't in Iraq), so it's the United States who will be held responsible for fixing everything.
And quite frankly, you're an idiot if you don't understand that.
You have not stated anything here that I don't agree with. Accept of course your calling me an idiot. (won't bother to report it as I just considered the source). :roll:
Don't need your short term history lesson, as I was in
Iran when the US was supporting
Iran against Saddam Hussein in 1974.
Change of power meant change in allies. It was in the US interest to keep the two regional powers at each others throats.
I could care less about whether life for Iraqis suck.
Should have made sure the Nukes didn't get Hussein. He would have been begging the US and the United Kingdom to make oil deals as Muammar Gaddafi did.
Muammar Gaddafi sure changed his attitude quick
By the way, what we "lost" also includes Spike's suggestions.
As for Spike's comments I just ignored them as he probably knew what I was talking about and choose to ignore it.
I would not waste one American service persons life on these other countries. If they want to be free then let them earn it.
I did read some of the posts in the thread about the Australians having the best troops, let's just send them next time and they will have it wrapped up in time for Tea.:smile: