The US roll in central & south America. - Page 2




 
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Boots
 
June 21st, 2005  
Corocotta
 
 
Concerning the roll of CIA in Guatemala, this web page contains all the declasified papers.

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB32/vol2.html
June 21st, 2005  
Missileer
 
 
The USA has to be concerned when Communism starts to spread to this Continent. South and Central America are still on this Continent the last time I looked. The reason that Russia was not allowed to install missile bases in Cuba is pretty self evident. The wolf can never be allowed to set up headquarters next to the sheep pens, period. That is and always will be USA policy. Learn to accept things that you can't change and wars will dwindle to peace.
June 22nd, 2005  
bulldogg
 
 
Ouch. With that logic Missileer the same could be said for the US of the spread of fundamentalist militant islam. Might makes right? This is not something to aspire to in a world wrought with so many people who feel victimized by American hegemony. Live by the sword die by the sword. People who are oppressed into peace will never be pacified, they will merely wait til the giant slumbers and then slit his throat. I would prefer a world in which one can learn to live with differences and accept that there is more than one right answer in the world to the myriad of problems as humans we all face, not just the American prescription.
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Boots
June 22nd, 2005  
Corocotta
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Missileer
The USA has to be concerned when Communism starts to spread to this Continent. South and Central America are still on this Continent the last time I looked. The reason that Russia was not allowed to install missile bases in Cuba is pretty self evident. The wolf can never be allowed to set up headquarters next to the sheep pens, period. That is and always will be USA policy. Learn to accept things that you can't change and wars will dwindle to peace.
And stoping the advance of comunism includes supporting "death squads"? Supporting indian genocide? Financing para-militar groups with money that comes from cocaine dealing? Perhaps the correct way to stop the advance of comunism in South & Central America would have been eliminating the corrupt Governaments supported by US Governament and by US multinationals and sharing the lands of the landowners. But this reasoning is from a logical point of view. I guess that for US Goverment was lots cheaper to put a 9 mm bullet in the head of communist leaders.

By the way, the tale of the wolf is wonderful, but I guess that many muslims think the same way as you concerning the US troops located in South Arabia.
June 22nd, 2005  
Corocotta
 
 
CIA Study Of Assassination: A how-to guide book in the art of political killing, the 19-page manual offers detailed descriptions of the procedures, instruments, and implementation of assassination. The manual also notes that to provide plausible denial, "no assassination instructions should ever be written or recorded." Murder, the drafters state, "is not morally justifiable," and "persons who are morally squeamish should not attempt it."

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/...temala2_1.html
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/.../ciaguat2.html




Read this declasified document, its quality is not very good, but you can understand it.

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/...temala1_1.html


(Line 4: The Agency drew up list of individuals for assasination...
June 22nd, 2005  
Missileer
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldogg
Ouch. With that logic Missileer the same could be said for the US of the spread of fundamentalist militant islam. Might makes right? This is not something to aspire to in a world wrought with so many people who feel victimized by American hegemony. Live by the sword die by the sword. People who are oppressed into peace will never be pacified, they will merely wait til the giant slumbers and then slit his throat. I would prefer a world in which one can learn to live with differences and accept that there is more than one right answer in the world to the myriad of problems as humans we all face, not just the American prescription.
They drew first blood. End of story.
June 22nd, 2005  
Corocotta
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Missileer
Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldogg
Ouch. With that logic Missileer the same could be said for the US of the spread of fundamentalist militant islam. Might makes right? This is not something to aspire to in a world wrought with so many people who feel victimized by American hegemony. Live by the sword die by the sword. People who are oppressed into peace will never be pacified, they will merely wait til the giant slumbers and then slit his throat. I would prefer a world in which one can learn to live with differences and accept that there is more than one right answer in the world to the myriad of problems as humans we all face, not just the American prescription.
They drew first blood. End of story.
I think that the beginning of the history goes back to the US support to the creation of the Israel state. Many muslims do not forget that palestinians in Gazaa, Cisjordania,.. are killed with american technology weapons. Do not forget the issue of the US troops in the Holy land...
Beggining and end.
June 29th, 2005  
03USMC
 
 
It's a given that the United States Policies in Latin America have not always been noble or right. But to ignore the Cuban Policies backed by the USSR in the 60's, 70's and 80's and Fidels continued support of FARC, Sendero Luminoso, Tupac Amaru, Zapatistas and thier various splinter groups is ignoring the reasons for some of the US policies.
July 1st, 2005  
Corocotta
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 03USMC
It's a given that the United States Policies in Latin America have not always been noble or right. But to ignore the Cuban Policies backed by the USSR in the 60's, 70's and 80's and Fidels continued support of FARC, Sendero Luminoso, Tupac Amaru, Zapatistas and thier various splinter groups is ignoring the reasons for some of the US policies.
Yes, that is vey true. But there are things that have no justification.
July 1st, 2005  
03USMC
 
 
Care to provide some examples or are you just making a blanket " The US is always wrong" statement ......again.