United States military administration unique in the world - Page 2




 
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Boots
 
April 6th, 2005  
Missileer
 
 
I was a little leery of JFK but he was my Commander in Chief so I would have gone anywhere or done anything he ordered. I believe that a country's leader should never be seen in a military uniform. When they start to play soldier, that's the beginning of the end.
April 6th, 2005  
Charge 7
 
 
Yep, nobody in the Clinton administration noticed that the Marines did no facing manouvers when he exited Marine One. Media picked right up on it when it was restored when Bush came into office. That was the only visible display of a lack of approval and it was very, very subtle.

As for personal opinions, well, I always wonder that when they start talking about cutbacks in the military that personnel are at the top of the list. The entire personnel budget of the military including active duty, reserves, and retirement benefits is only about 8% of the total military budget. Big savings.
April 6th, 2005  
03USMC
 
 
Thats cuz it's safer and easier to RIF out Cpl. Smuckatelli, Sgt. Brown SSGT Smith. Leave Lt's, Capt's, Majors, and Col's unagumented and passed over. And stand down active duty units and put their responsibility on the Reserves. Than it is to PO Boeing, Dow, Grumman, etc. When your an elected official.
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Boots
May 7th, 2005  
sinkhole
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Charge 7
Yep, nobody in the Clinton administration noticed that the Marines did no facing manouvers when he exited Marine One. Media picked right up on it when it was restored when Bush came into office. That was the only visible display of a lack of approval and it was very, very subtle.
www.snopes.com
May 7th, 2005  
Charge 7
 
 
It ain't an urban legend. It happened.
May 7th, 2005  
sinkhole
 
Prove it.
May 7th, 2005  
Charge 7
 
 
Well, it appears you are correct afterall. I remembered hearing it on CNN years ago when President Bush assumed office, but evidently they didn't check their facts on that and I didn't checkup on them either.

Quote:
Harry Levins of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch looked into this one and found it fiction.

In an article from March 10, 2001, he quotes a spokesperson from Marine Corps headquarters as flatly denying the eRumor. The spokesperson said the Marines assigned to the president's helicopter have a protocol for greeting the president and have used it equally for both Mr. Clinton and Mr. Bush. That is that the
The Marine at the bottom of the steps salutes the president. As soon as the salute is returned, the Marine does a right face to face the president's back. The Marine holds that position until the president "has moved a comfortable distance away."

Any Marines departing from that would not be disrespecting the man, but the presidency, and that would not be tolerated.
I'll trust the Marines to know the truth.
May 7th, 2005  
03USMC
 
 
The Marines followed the protocol as set forth for rendering honors to POTUS. To not do so would have tarnished the reputation of the Corps.

Did they do so with a little less ethusiasm. Probably. Clinton was not popular with individual Marines. But remember the Marines that are assigned duty as honor guard at the White House are the cream of the Crop from Marine Barracks 8th and I the Oldest Post in the Corps. There is alot of tradition that goes with being assigned those duties and those traditions are taken very seriously by the Marines assigned to that Post. Regardless of whether the Individual Marine likes the man serving, or doesn't he's still POTUS.
May 15th, 2005  
Mohmar Deathstrike
 
 

Topic: Re: United States military administration unique in the worl


Quote:
Originally Posted by WarMachine
Have you ever noticed that our military never complains about our new president, whoever he may be? Other countries in south america and even europe rely on the support of the military for any leader to succeed. Yet the USA has a military organization that is very much free to do what is necessary after the orders have been given. Why is that our government never requires military support, is it our stability?
That's the way it works in the European Union and in many other countries of the world aswell. It's not unique to the USA at all.
May 15th, 2005  
Gunner13
 
 
Some of the other reasons beyond our oath are:

1. The Constitution itself, which is the conerstone of our liberty and we know it.

2. US Armed Forces are all volunteer and composed of free men and women who have chosen to serve their country. This encourages a professional attitude and a dedication to the Nation (as does our history).

3. The very stucture of the Department of Defense and the President's position as Commander in Chief legally and morally places the US Armed Forces under civilian control.

4. We read history. There are many, many bad examples of what happens when a country's military meddles in politics. We don't want to go there - that way lies madness.

I agree, we are not unique, nor should we be.