The United States of Europe - Page 5




 
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April 9th, 2005  
A Can of Man
 
 
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Originally Posted by beardo
those pussies
This statement actually has more weight than you may think. I just can't see Britain getting along with the continental pussies. There are hard bastards here and there but overall it's pussy rule. Very unfortunate. Why couldn't they be more like the violence loving Finns?
April 9th, 2005  
Doppleganger
 
 
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One popular myth is that the EU will be just as stable and united as the USA is. This is a severe misjudgement for the immediate future. Give it time though and we'll see.
The problem in Europe is that we are trying to unite countries that have been enemies for centuries, that have had many wars betewen them...and this is a dificult thing..
It's not just the past wars that are the problem. Britain, Spain, France, Germany, etc are all different culturally.

Austria and Germany share the same culture, but that's as far as it goes. We'll never become the "USE" because we disagree with each other too much.

Well, I do not think that we are that much different in the cultural fact. We all have the same roots (Celtic and visigotic origin), we all were dominated by the roman empire,most of us speak languages originated in the latin, we all are Cristians, we all have democracy....and so on.

The biggest problems I think are: loose of soberanity and NACIONALISM.
I agree. Most European nations are basically very similar in culture and standards. Loss of national identity is the biggest barrier to most Europeans for further integration.
April 9th, 2005  
Kenty
 
 
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Originally Posted by Doppleganger
Most European nations are basically very similar in culture and standards
EH?!

The English are sipping on tea whilst the Germans are guzzling beer...
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April 10th, 2005  
MadeInChina
 
everyone uses forks and knives, thats a very big similarity
April 10th, 2005  
A Can of Man
 
 
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everyone uses forks and knives, thats a very big similarity
Right so we should also lump people who eat with their fingers into one group?
April 10th, 2005  
Doppleganger
 
 
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Originally Posted by Kenty
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Originally Posted by Doppleganger
Most European nations are basically very similar in culture and standards
EH?!

The English are sipping on tea whilst the Germans are guzzling beer...
Dude. We guzzle almost as much beer as the Germans do. We drink almost as much wine as the French. We eat almost as much pasta and pizza as the Italians. We all love football and watching game shows on TV. Sounds basically similar to me.

There is as much difference in culture between a fisherman in the Shetlands and a City stockbrocker as there is between those same 2 people and someone living in Germany.
April 10th, 2005  
beardo
 
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Originally Posted by beardo
those pussies
This statement actually has more weight than you may think. I just can't see Britain getting along with the continental pussies. There are hard bastards here and there but overall it's kitty rule. Very unfortunate. Why couldn't they be more like the violence loving Finns?
I like the way you think

oh, and dont forget the swedish, they love a good scrap too
April 10th, 2005  
Kenty
 
 
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Originally Posted by Doppleganger
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Originally Posted by Kenty
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Originally Posted by Doppleganger
Most European nations are basically very similar in culture and standards
EH?!

The English are sipping on tea whilst the Germans are guzzling beer...
Dude. We guzzle almost as much beer as the Germans do. We drink almost as much wine as the French. We eat almost as much pasta and pizza as the Italians. We all love football and watching game shows on TV. Sounds basically similar to me.

There is as much difference in culture between a fisherman in the Shetlands and a City stockbrocker as there is between those same 2 people and someone living in Germany.

That's not our culture- that is SOCIETY.

People know the English for being "posh" and drinking tea. People know the Scots for being brawlers and rowdy. People know the French for being very stuck up. People know the Italians for being very stylish.


We all have different trates.

The USA works because Americans all live in the same sort of way- sure there is the "North South divide" but we have that in England.


The UK is TOTALLY different from the rest of Europe. Our backgrounds are different and we never agree [remember that war in Iraq???]

We may have the same sort of lifestyles today, but creating the USE will not work economically or politically.
April 10th, 2005  
Doppleganger
 
 
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Originally Posted by Kenty
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Originally Posted by Doppleganger
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Originally Posted by Kenty
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Originally Posted by Doppleganger
Most European nations are basically very similar in culture and standards
EH?!

The English are sipping on tea whilst the Germans are guzzling beer...
Dude. We guzzle almost as much beer as the Germans do. We drink almost as much wine as the French. We eat almost as much pasta and pizza as the Italians. We all love football and watching game shows on TV. Sounds basically similar to me.

There is as much difference in culture between a fisherman in the Shetlands and a City stockbrocker as there is between those same 2 people and someone living in Germany.

That's not our culture- that is SOCIETY.

People know the English for being "posh" and drinking tea. People know the Scots for being brawlers and rowdy. People know the French for being very stuck up. People know the Italians for being very stylish.


We all have different trates.

The USA works because Americans all live in the same sort of way- sure there is the "North South divide" but we have that in England.


The UK is TOTALLY different from the rest of Europe. Our backgrounds are different and we never agree [remember that war in Iraq???]

We may have the same sort of lifestyles today, but creating the USE will not work economically or politically.
Well what do you think society is if not culture?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture

What you are describing is 'stereotypes' not culture. It is a 'stereotype' that all English are posh and drink tea and all Scots are rowdy brawlers. It is a stereotype that all French are 'stuck-up' and all Italians 'stylish'. How many Europeans have you actually met?

So by your defination of 'culture' all African Americans eat fried chicken and like to sing and all Indians eat curry? Because that's what you're saying when you say that all English are posh and drink tea.
April 10th, 2005  
Corocotta
 
 
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Originally Posted by Kenty
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Originally Posted by Doppleganger
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Originally Posted by Kenty
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Originally Posted by Doppleganger
Most European nations are basically very similar in culture and standards
EH?!

The English are sipping on tea whilst the Germans are guzzling beer...
Dude. We guzzle almost as much beer as the Germans do. We drink almost as much wine as the French. We eat almost as much pasta and pizza as the Italians. We all love football and watching game shows on TV. Sounds basically similar to me.

There is as much difference in culture between a fisherman in the Shetlands and a City stockbrocker as there is between those same 2 people and someone living in Germany.

That's not our culture- that is SOCIETY.

People know the English for being "posh" and drinking tea. People know the Scots for being brawlers and rowdy. People know the French for being very stuck up. People know the Italians for being very stylish.


We all have different trates.

The USA works because Americans all live in the same sort of way- sure there is the "North South divide" but we have that in England.


The UK is TOTALLY different from the rest of Europe. Our backgrounds are different and we never agree [remember that war in Iraq???]

We may have the same sort of lifestyles today, but creating the USE will not work economically or politically.


I recomend you to travel a little bit, and if you do travel pay attention to what you see. The only way to sanate nacionalism is traveling.