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Boots
 
March 9th, 2005  
A Can of Man
 
 
You know nothing about Churchill then. He was one of the strongest anti-Communsit advocates.
The alliance was neccessary to beat the Nazis, that was really it. That was the only reason for siding with the Soviets.
You have to remember, allies do not mean friends. People make this mistake all the time, thinking that a political alliance means that the two like each other. This is not always true.
America needed to beat the Nazis. The USSR was important in that objective.
It's not hypocracy. It's just something pretty common.
Why don't you learn something about the topic before posting? Anyone who knew the slightest about Winston Churchill would have never made the statement you made.
March 9th, 2005  
Corocotta
 
 
Well, answer this then, why didnīt they help Franco to win Comunism in Spain and avoid over 1 million deads??
You are going to say that the Spanish Republic was a Democratic elected political sistem, and is partially true. It was until comunist and anarchist won power in the goverment and supplant the real one.Then the revolution began.....
March 9th, 2005  
A Can of Man
 
 
Churchill wasn't in power then.
It was pretty much the same folks who were in favor of appeasement etc.
Again do your research.
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Boots
March 9th, 2005  
Corocotta
 
 
You are right, but FDR was president of US al that time.....
March 9th, 2005  
Charge 7
 
 
And the US was very isolationist at that time. We didn't even want to go to war to help _Britain_ a couple years later and we are their decendants! So why would we go to Spain, for crying out loud? I'll echo 13th Redneck. Do your research before you post! You've made glaring error after glaring error. Not that anybody's paying you much attention now, but before much longer nobody will reply to you at all if you can't even research what is common knowledge to many of us.
March 9th, 2005  
03USMC
 
 
Actually there were non US Goverment supported Americans in Spain. As well as Canucks, Brit's etc.. They were memembers of the 15th International Brigade the US formation was the A. Lincoln Bn. Of course they fought against Franco so..........................................
March 10th, 2005  
Italian Guy
 
 
Yeah that's right. Stauroflakes do some research, man.
March 10th, 2005  
Corocotta
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Italian Guy
Yeah that's right. Stauroflakes do some research, man.
with my post i was trying to say that if US & GB were so worried about comunism may be they should have made something to avoid the expansion of comunism is Spain instead of helping them and also avoid 1 million deads. Some guys said that US were very isolated at that time, well, they joined the WWI,because a german submarine sunk the Lusitania, well you should know that Ironically, the U-boat was originally intended as a defensive craft. It was only mobilized offensively in response to the British blockade. The first expression of the German U-boat's offensive power was the sinking of the Lusitania in May, 1915. The Germans had placed numerous newspaper ads warning Americans not to travel aboard the Lusitania, which was carrying munitions but masquerading as an ocean liner. Americans still believed in their right, as members of a neutral nation, to travel unharmed. Of the 1,153 passengers on the Lusitania, 118 Americans died; President Wilson therefore warned the Germans that another aggressive act would provoke the United States to war. This warning inhibited the German Navy for almost two years, until the German Navy ceased to consider the United States an immediate threat. The German Navy began to claim that, with unrestricted submarine warfare, they could force the British to surrender in six months. The experts calculated that it would take the United States at least a year to mobilize, and by that time, the British surrender would be complete. The Germans were willing to risk American intervention because they were confident they could secure Britain. The German plan seemed to be an early success; however, with the intervention of America's strong navy and the implementation of the convoy (a group of cargo-ships protected by a large number of warships) the United States neutralized the German U-boat. Germany had gambled and lost.


If you are trying to offend with the stereoflakes thing....you might try something better, but i have to tell you that with the last word of your nickname it is easy to make funny and easy jokes
March 10th, 2005  
Corocotta
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 03USMC
Actually there were non US Goverment supported Americans in Spain. As well as Canucks, Brit's etc.. They were memembers of the 15th International Brigade the US formation was the A. Lincoln Bn. Of course they fought against Franco so..........................................
Some times you say that US need to use all kinds of of methods to stop comunism advance, like in nicaragua, Chila, Guatemala, Korea, Vietnam..... What made Spain different? May be because WWII would have started 3 years earlier?

The Lusitania example was just for make you see that US was not that isolated 21 years before the spanish cival war began....
March 10th, 2005  
Redneck
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by staurofilakes
with my post i was trying to say that if US & GB were so worried about comunism may be they should have made something to avoid the expansion of comunism is Spain instead of helping them and also avoid 1 million deads. Some guys said that US were very isolated at that time, well, they joined the WWI,because a german submarine sunk the Lusitania, well you should know that Ironically, the U-boat was originally intended as a defensive craft. It was only mobilized offensively in response to the British blockade. The first expression of the German U-boat's offensive power was the sinking of the Lusitania in May, 1915. The Germans had placed numerous newspaper ads warning Americans not to travel aboard the Lusitania, which was carrying munitions but masquerading as an ocean liner. Americans still believed in their right, as members of a neutral nation, to travel unharmed. Of the 1,153 passengers on the Lusitania, 118 Americans died; President Wilson therefore warned the Germans that another aggressive act would provoke the United States to war. This warning inhibited the German Navy for almost two years, until the German Navy ceased to consider the United States an immediate threat. The German Navy began to claim that, with unrestricted submarine warfare, they could force the British to surrender in six months. The experts calculated that it would take the United States at least a year to mobilize, and by that time, the British surrender would be complete. The Germans were willing to risk American intervention because they were confident they could secure Britain. The German plan seemed to be an early success; however, with the intervention of America's strong navy and the implementation of the convoy (a group of cargo-ships protected by a large number of warships) the United States neutralized the German U-boat. Germany had gambled and lost.


If you are trying to offend with the stereoflakes thing....you might try something better, but i have to tell you that with the last word of your nickname it is easy to make funny and easy jokes
Have you ever heard of stream of conciousness writing?


And there will be no attempts to creat insulting nicknames by anyone for anyone else.