Ukraine Announces New Restrictions on Russia Fleet




 
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August 15th, 2008  
Lunatik
 
 

Topic: Ukraine Announces New Restrictions on Russia Fleet


KIEV, Ukraine - Russian warships deployed off Georgia must obtain Ukraine's permission before returning to their base in the port of Sevastopol, a Ukrainian official was quoted by Interfax as saying Aug. 14.

This was necessary because use of Russian ships based in Ukraine against "third countries" could lead to attacks on Ukrainian territory, endangering Ukrainian citizens, said Viktor Semyonov, a senior Ukrainian official responsible for relations with Russia's Black Sea fleet.

The comments came one day after Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko signed a decree stating that if Russia did not seek the permission of Ukraine's armed forces "at least 72 hours before ships or aircraft crossing the Ukrainian border," Ukraine "may demand that naval ships... and aircraft of the Black Sea fleet leave" Ukraine's territory immediately. The decree was published on Yushchenko's Web site.

Russia condemned the move, with a foreign ministry statement describing it as an "anti-Russian step."

"The innovation is aimed at creating serious difficulties for the practical activities of the fleet, directly contradicting" a key bilateral agreement, the statement said. "It is perplexing that Ukraine once again has not bothered to even observe elementary diplomatic niceties."

The announcement heightened fears that Ukraine, a close ally of Tbilisi, could be caught up in a conflict that has raged in recent days between Russia and Georgia.

Yushchenko has pursued a staunchly pro-Western course, like Georgia seeking membership in NATO, whose expansion Moscow strongly opposes.
Ships from Russia's Black Sea fleet have been active off the coast of Georgia. Russia's military on Aug. 10 said it had sunk one Georgian naval vessel, while on Aug. 12 Georgia said Russia had sunk three Georgian coast guard ships.

Russia has maintained its historic Black Sea fleet base in Sevastopol since the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991 and the current Russian lease on the facility expires in 2017. Russian politicians and military officials are strongly opposed to the prospect of closing the base or restrictions on its use.

The base is located on Ukraine's sensitive Crimean Peninsula, home to a large Russophone population with pro-Moscow sympathies, as well as some other ethnic groups.

http://defensenews.com/story.php?i=3673684&c=EUR&s=SEA
August 15th, 2008  
Lunatik
 
 
Yeap, the domino effect has started. I hope all this won't lead to a new Cold War.
August 15th, 2008  
5.56X45mm
 
 
Good.... I supporting Ukraine telling Russia where they can shove their fleet. Ukraine has the right to make demands like that.....

As for a new Cold War. It's bound to happen. Russia/Communist China versus the free world. the Chicoms will of course be less active then the Russians but I know they the Chicoms will be playing their own games.
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August 15th, 2008  
A Can of Man
 
 
I wouldn't lump the Chinese and the Russians together. They have their own serious differences as well.
August 15th, 2008  
5.56X45mm
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by the_13th_redneck
I wouldn't lump the Chinese and the Russians together. They have their own serious differences as well.
I meant to say a cold war with Russia and another with the Communist Chinese. They won't be allies but they will be both enemies of the free world.
August 15th, 2008  
A Can of Man
 
 
It's a lot more complicated than that but I see what your point is.
The truth is that "they" are not all on the same side and "we" are also not all on the same side.
Evidence: Both Japan and Korea are allies of the US. But Japan and Korea are not allies.
August 15th, 2008  
MontyB
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lunatik
KIEV, Ukraine - Russian warships deployed off Georgia must obtain Ukraine's permission before returning to their base in the port of Sevastopol, a Ukrainian official was quoted by Interfax as saying Aug. 14.

This was necessary because use of Russian ships based in Ukraine against "third countries" could lead to attacks on Ukrainian territory, endangering Ukrainian citizens, said Viktor Semyonov, a senior Ukrainian official responsible for relations with Russia's Black Sea fleet.

The comments came one day after Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko signed a decree stating that if Russia did not seek the permission of Ukraine's armed forces "at least 72 hours before ships or aircraft crossing the Ukrainian border," Ukraine "may demand that naval ships... and aircraft of the Black Sea fleet leave" Ukraine's territory immediately. The decree was published on Yushchenko's Web site.

Russia condemned the move, with a foreign ministry statement describing it as an "anti-Russian step."

"The innovation is aimed at creating serious difficulties for the practical activities of the fleet, directly contradicting" a key bilateral agreement, the statement said. "It is perplexing that Ukraine once again has not bothered to even observe elementary diplomatic niceties."

The announcement heightened fears that Ukraine, a close ally of Tbilisi, could be caught up in a conflict that has raged in recent days between Russia and Georgia.

Yushchenko has pursued a staunchly pro-Western course, like Georgia seeking membership in NATO, whose expansion Moscow strongly opposes.
Ships from Russia's Black Sea fleet have been active off the coast of Georgia. Russia's military on Aug. 10 said it had sunk one Georgian naval vessel, while on Aug. 12 Georgia said Russia had sunk three Georgian coast guard ships.

Russia has maintained its historic Black Sea fleet base in Sevastopol since the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991 and the current Russian lease on the facility expires in 2017. Russian politicians and military officials are strongly opposed to the prospect of closing the base or restrictions on its use.

The base is located on Ukraine's sensitive Crimean Peninsula, home to a large Russophone population with pro-Moscow sympathies, as well as some other ethnic groups.

http://defensenews.com/story.php?i=3673684&c=EUR&s=SEA
As I understand it the Black Sea fleet will be moving to a new base in Novorossiysk in 2012 anyway which will give them 5 years to completely dismantle Sevastopol so doubt this will be a major issue.
 


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