U.S. to Withdraw 24 Attack Choppers from Korea




 
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November 17th, 2008  
rock45
 

Topic: U.S. to Withdraw 24 Attack Choppers from Korea


U.S. to Withdraw 24 Attack Choppers from Korea
The U.S. will withdraw one battalion of Apache helicopters to the mainland U.S. but replace them with 12 air-to-ground attack aircraft. The U.S. will also deploy two mine-sweeping MH-53E Sea Dragon helicopters and increase the frequency of operation of U-2 reconnaissance aircraft over North Korea, in addition to the A-10 aircraft known as "tank killers."

Defense Ministry spokesman Won Tae-je told reporters the U.S. Forces Korea will deploy the attack aircraft early next year. Around March, the USFK will withdraw one of the two Apache helicopter battalions, or 24 choppers, stationed in Korea.

The Apache helicopters, which will go to Fort Carson, Colorado, are expected to be redeployed to Iraq or Afghanistan after a period of training.
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The measure is aimed at placating fears of a vacuum in the USFK's war readiness due to the withdrawal of the Apache helicopters. The U.S. apparently wants to show that it can redeploy USFK troops and equipment anytime to anywhere in the world for its “war on terror.”

Military experts believe that there will be no noticeable shortfall in capabilities as a result, but they note that the A-10 aircraft will not be able to fulfill all the functions of the Apaches.

Lt. Gen. Joseph Fil, commander of the Eighth U.S. Army, said nobody knows when A-10 aircraft could in turn be replaced but added the U.S. remains “fully committed” to the defense of Korea and the overall security and stability of the region.

The U.S. will continue to maintain about 28,500 troops in South Korea.

Link
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/ht...811170004.html
November 17th, 2008  
A Can of Man
 
 
Yeah I heard.
I encourage the US to pull out all its troops. Then we'll have a real party. The last part will involve either dying or swimming to Japan.
November 18th, 2008  
rock45
 

Topic: Troops


Withstanding China getting involved wouldn't South Korea's well trained and equipped Armed Forces handle North Korea? Air power rules and NK air force is outdated and I'm sure gets a lot less training hours as South Korea's does, so South Korea holds a huge edge. Now off setting that artillery pointed south and I assume rockets that's another story. I don't know how to stop artillery without taking out the cannons themselves and their command & control.

An off the wall question I have read a few fiction books about the north attacking the south. Did South Korea (government/military) ever come up with a war-time plans to attack the north? Or would that be crazy because China would assist? Just thought it would be interesting to flip it around for once.
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November 18th, 2008  
A Can of Man
 
 
Rock45, those questions are for those well above my pay grade.
But if you ask me, once America's gone China's going to step right in. Just like old times. There's a variety of ways they can do it but a partial military roll over in the destruction of South Korea's military would provide them with a huge sense of pride and superiority and would rally a whole generation that supremacy in this side of the world is possible.
They'll probably want to capture South Korea's infrastructure intact so probably the heavy duty destruction will happen in North Korea. Once South Korea's military is destroyed, it'll be the return to the vassalage relationship just as things were for hundreds of years before.
November 18th, 2008  
Damien435
 
 
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Originally Posted by the_13th_redneck
Yeah I heard.
I encourage the US to pull out all its troops. Then we'll have a real party. The last part will involve either dying or swimming to Japan.
Um, is this sarcastic? Seems a bit cynical for an RoK Marine to be saying.
November 18th, 2008  
A Can of Man
 
 
Spend a little time here and you'll understand.
My years in Korea have turned me cynical to the core.
November 18th, 2008  
rock45
 

Topic: South vs North


Hi the_13th_redneck
I can see some US Pentagon plan drawn up if the " South needs to attack" ?
Massive air strikes against air defenses and command and control and of course any and all artillery that can be targeted. I don't see the north having enough modern anti-tank weapons and forces to stop a real all hell bent push. South Korea and US armor racing north with supporting artillery rolling behind them plus tac air seems unstoppable. I know securing the flanks would be difficult and getting important supplies like fuel, ammo, and medical to follow this push also difficult.

On the down side those same valleys with thin roads and high mountain sides the north would have to past through to attack the south would have to be pasted through by South Korean and American forces as not an easy feat to do in real life I guess.

I don't know enough about both countries navies but assume South Korea's is better equipped and could play a big part in such a attack? Just thought it was interesting to reverse it for once.
November 18th, 2008  
mmarsh
 
 
13th Redneck

The US has only 37000 troops in South Korea, they don't need to wait for the US to leave. If China or North Korea wanted to step in there wouldn't be a thing we could do about it in the short term. 37000 troops (many of which are non-combat roles) is not going to hold off a 2 Million man offensive thrust for very long.

So its better that they are redeployed. Better to have them as part of a counterattack force based either in the south or in Japan to meet the invader as his attack begins to peter out than face the Tsunami head on when its at its strongest. This was exactly the strategy NATO used when they faced the Soviets during the Cold War, let the Soviets invade Western German/Eastern France and than counter attack from the UK-Western/Central France when they have lost the momentum.
November 18th, 2008  
rock45
 
Does China have that many forces on North Korea's border? I can't see North Korea having two million soldiers ready for battle.
November 18th, 2008  
A Can of Man
 
 
US presence does certain things:
1) The ones here mean that re-enforcements can be ready to go and equipped quickly
2) Invasion means the invaders will have to engage Americans which means it will bring America into the war.
3) The MOST important part about American presence is not infantry or heavy armor units but air power and resupply.

The counterattack will involve Marines in Okinawa. So they're already there. But the pullout of Apaches is never a good thing.
Believe me, I pretty much know these sort of things down to the core. Why it is so damned important that American units are stationed here.

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Originally Posted by mmarsh
13th Redneck

The US has only 37000 troops in South Korea, they don't need to wait for the US to leave. If China or North Korea wanted to step in there wouldn't be a thing we could do about it in the short term. 37000 troops (many of which are non-combat roles) is not going to hold off a 2 Million man offensive thrust for very long.

So its better that they are redeployed. Better to have them as part of a counterattack force based either in the south or in Japan to meet the invader as his attack begins to peter out than face the Tsunami head on when its at its strongest. This was exactly the strategy NATO used when they faced the Soviets during the Cold War, let the Soviets invade Western German/Eastern France and than counter attack from the UK-Western/Central France when they have lost the momentum.
 


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