U.s. Plans To Renew Ties With Iran - Page 3




 
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March 24th, 2006  
Chief Bones
 
 

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Originally Posted by phoenix80
********s keep forgetting how their lovely Clintonites gave Military secrets to China and gave away the nuclear reactors to North Koreans
Stop trying to rewrite history..... give some definitive proof of your allegations.....
March 24th, 2006  
Marinerhodes
 
 
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Originally Posted by Chief Bones
Open your eyes ... King George is about to give away the silverware and get NOTHING in return (or) do you believe that the Mullah's have suddenly had a change of heart where the West (United States) is concerned ... their stated aim is still the same as it was prior to Bush's 'great brainstorm' (if he is really capable of such a thing when it comes to International Policy) ... we are still viewed as the 'Great Satan' by those in charge in Iran and they still want to wipe us out.
My eyes are open Chief. The only difference between us, I think, is I don't wear blinders because I like or dislike a person.

I have said it before and I will say it again: I don't think we should "wheel and deal" with Iran in any shape way or form. But if we don't use "diplomacy" then what do we do? Do we go in and commit ourselves to another front on which to fight? Or do we just sit back and let things develop apace and hope they come out for the best?

Tell me, what would you do in this situation Chief? As it stands right now with everything in place and you were to takeover the office of the president this very day. What would you do in regards to China, Iraq, Iran, and all the other little niggling things that concern foreign affairs?
March 24th, 2006  
phoenix80
 
 
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Originally Posted by Chief Bones
Stop trying to rewrite history..... give some definitive proof of your allegations.....
So you are implying that these didn't happen...

Oh I see.
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March 24th, 2006  
mmarsh
 
 
Are you a Michael Moore fan?

Yes I am, but I can tell the difference between when he exaggerates something and when he's on target. Unlike yourself seems totally incapable for looking past your own narrow minded views.

Unlike you, I don't buy all BS I see, hear or read every day

Thats just the problem, I dont think you hear or read anything other than the radical right wing. You must be having difficult sleeping as much of Bush current troubles actually coming from fellow Republicans, or do you plan on blaming the Democrats for that too?

And while we are on the subject of BS, how about we play a game? You provide EVIDENCE from a reputable (i.e not some right wing fantasy website) news source about how Clinton sold weapons to China and I will provide you with all my evidence that you claim is BS about W oil dealings...

How about it? If you agree, I'll even go first...
March 25th, 2006  
phoenix80
 
 

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Originally Posted by mmarsh
Are you a Michael Moore fan?

Yes I am, but I can tell the difference between when he exaggerates something and when he's on target. Unlike yourself seems totally incapable for looking past your own narrow minded views.

Unlike you, I don't buy all BS I see, hear or read every day

Thats just the problem, I dont think you hear or read anything other than the radical right wing. You must be having difficult sleeping as much of Bush current troubles actually coming from fellow Republicans, or do you plan on blaming the Democrats for that too?

And while we are on the subject of BS, how about we play a game? You provide EVIDENCE from a reputable (i.e not some right wing fantasy website) news source about how Clinton sold weapons to China and I will provide you with all my evidence that you claim is BS about W oil dealings...

How about it? If you agree, I'll even go first...
It is just great to hear a french praising Michael Moore.

http://www.grunt.com/images-bs/jul04/howard.jpg <<< USMC Message for Mike Moore the fatest liar of the world

what else should I say?

okay any how to disappoint you as a radical left winger who thinks Moore is the good guy, let me see what we have here against one of the worst presidents of the USA (After Jimmy Carter for sure):

Ok, read this book written by FBI director of the CLINTON era

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0312321899/002-5887526-4749643?v=glance&n=283155

http://www.greaterthings.com/News/Clinton_Scandals/

Read this book too

http://www.weyrich.com/book_reviews/year_rat.html

These links are telling us some thing about the treasons of Clinton and damages he inflicted on the US security

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/2/22/213115.shtml

From wikipedia

On October 24, 1995, President Clinton had a meeting with Chinese President Jiang Zemin in New York City. Assistant Secretary of State for East Asian and Pacific Affairs Winston Lord (former deputy national security advisor under Henry Kissinger), National Security Advisor Anthony Lake (former State Department official under Henry Kissinger), Secretary Christopher and Robert Suettinger, Director of Asian Affairs for the National Security Council (NSC), joined them at the meeting. No one brought up China's theft of America's weapons designs during the discussion because, at this point, all five claim they had not yet been told.

CIA Director Deutch allegedly briefed NSC Director Anthony Lake about China's theft of America's nuclear weapon designs sometime in November 1995. The president, allegedly, still had not yet been informed. Lake later claimed he did not recall the briefing, but he and White House officials said there was a record of it.

Also in November, Attorney General Janet Reno, Defense Secretary Perry and FBI Director Louis Freeh allegedly learned of China's theft of all of America's nuclear weapons designs for the first time. Allegedly, no one informed the president.

On March 14, President Clinton signed an order that transferred decision-making authority over granting of licenses for overseas sales of dual-use technology from the State Department to the Commerce Department -- thereby making it easier for the PLA to launch American satellites -- against State Department and Pentagon objections. The order would not take effect until November 6 -- a day after the presidential election. Dual-use technology includes high-performance computers (HPCs) and nuclear power plant technology among other things. Clinton's Commerce Department allowed the sale of 603 HPCs to China between 1996 and 1998.

White House records indicate a meeting between Al Gore and John Huang took place on March 15, 96

On August 11, 1996 Chinese Gen. Ji Shengde gave Johnny Chung $300,000 to funnel into the Clinton/Gore re-election campaign. According to Chung, Ji said at the time: "We like your president".

More here

http://www.fas.org/news/china/1998/980521-prc2.htm

Listen to this on How Al-Gore & Clinton compromised US security to get some Chinese cash

http://www.philipdru.com/triplett_stream.html