Thats what I was telling you lol, the T-54 used the DROZD, not the ARENA lol

Originally Posted by Zastava-Arms

Thats what I was telling you lol, the T-54 used the DROZD, not the ARENA lol

What can I do .. it is my poor book )))
yes you are right !! sorry my bad ,,

oh w/e...if both systems made to save lives then they are both great. il go with Russian stuff thought.


just cause the first prototype was made a while ago does not mean that its the same stuff that is today so shove the - arena is older up your ass.

Russians invented stealth in 1963 so stealth is ****ing old and cheap ****.

Originally Posted by Zastava-Arms

Both look pretty good, but I have a feeling that ARENA is better. Two reasons why I think this:

- Russia has had plenty of experience with the "Drozd" and "Shtora" APS
- Apparently the ARENA is selected to be equipped on the South Korean K2 MBT

Though I bet TROPHY is also some serious stuff aswell.

Drozd is a dead project that did not go anywhere, why would you compare Shtora to Arena, they are different devices, Shtora being soft kill versus Arena being a dedicated hard kill system. ROK has not decided to install Arena on the K2 and must likely will not due to other promising systems that are available. IDF it seems has not really made a decision to go entirely the route of Trophy, Iron Fist is still being tested by them and we may see a system that comes out that has both technologies implemented. Russian and Ukraine have tried like hell to sell Shtora to China and India and both countries have walked away disappointed, it does not work as advertised.