Torture resistance training. - Page 2




 
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October 6th, 2011  
42RM
 
We can address interrogation in more general terms without going into the details of military training.
Interrogation is an asymmetrical form of dialogue, such that that the goals and methods used by one side are different from those used by the other side. The interrogator seeks to acquire information from the respondent that is needed for some purpose. The goal of the respondent is to achieve his or her own interests, significantly including self protection.

Whilst interrogation is not directly about persuasion, it includes many persuasive elements. The main goals of interrogation are usually acquisition of information and the most significant persuasion in this is to get the other person to collaborate. Because the respondent may well be motivated to not to reveal all or tell other than the truth, the interrogator may need to use various tricks to achieve their goals.

A significant trap in interrogations is that the person being questioned will give answers simply to get away from the interrogator or otherwise otherwise give false information about what is being sought (such as a witness 'being helpful'). It is thus important for the interrogator not to take simple answers at face value, but to find ways of corroborating them, for example by asking related questions at a later date or checking up on what they are told.

Of course there are many things that interrogators may do, but here are four general rules that will go a long way to getting you what you seek.

Prepare well
The effective interrogator is well prepared. The person being interrogated may well be resistant to your questions, so you need to have many alternatives at your call. Find facts that will make you seem all-knowing. Find out about their background, their interests, what others know, what they want and fear and so on. Build a list of core questions plus many other supplementary questions that will nudge them towards critical answers.

Promote a path of least effort
The best interrogators never have to raise their voice and the session seems to the other person to be less an interrogation and more a friendly conversation. Appear friendly and cooperative, even sympathetic to the respondent. Do not give them easy reasons to resist, at least at the beginning.

Where stronger methods are required, always leave an easy route in the direction you want them to move.

Sun Tzu, the famous Chinese military strategy said “Build your enemies a golden bridge”. If the other side feels cornered, they will fight hard. If, however, there is one easy way out, then they are more likely to take that than fight.

Be methodical
Interrogation can be a long and intricate affair in which answers can contradict one another and things be left undiscovered and unsaid and no stone can be left unturned. Ask questions carefully. Record responses. Take time out to cross-check responses for consistency or otherwise. Repeat questions that have not been answered yet.

Be patient
When the other side does not want to answer your questions, then they may use all kinds of resistance tactics. Only when they know that these will not work will many people resign and give you what you want. Even when the other person is collaborative, they may not easily remember what you are seeking or even understand what you really want of them. Give plenty of time for answers. Show that you will never give up and will persist however long it takes.
October 6th, 2011  
eTe
 
 
I will check them out, Spartan. Thanks.

And interesting read 42RM. As expected.
Even reading it from an interrogators perspective, it can shine light on things to expect as the other.
I know that some tricks used is deprivation of food and sleep, stress positions, sensory deprivation, humiliation etc. Very psychological.
So far the only tactic I have read about is to just answer the big 4 and reply with "Sorry I cannot answer that".

But, in a training exercise, would the use of narcotics and corporeal punishment really be involved?
October 6th, 2011  
42RM
 
Narcotics - never!
Corporeal punishment - to a certain limit
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October 7th, 2011  
eTe
 
 
A bit of pain makes sense.
Thanks 42RM

Thanks Spartan for that link. They appear to be just what I'm looking for.
Due to work being busy over summer, with any luck I'll be able to get serious with it mid next year.
Until then I guess I'll just stick a sticky with their info to the fridge.

Edit: I contacted GLS and they are not structured for individuals, but rather small groups. So no-go.

Damn
October 7th, 2011  
42RM
 
Here are some basic rules for you if you are being interrogated. Of course any professional interrogator will know and counteract these.

Minimize harm
The basic rule for respondents in interrogations is to reduce the amount of harm that you are likely to experience, particularly in the longer term. Always keep in mind what you really want.

Minimum information
Do not volunteer information without purpose. Decide on your talk strategy and stick to it. This can be to speak as little as possible or to give as much information as possible (except in those areas where you want to stay private, of course).

Conceal
Know those things that you do not want to be discovered and work hard to ensure they are buried deep. Make no hints or admissions that may lead the questioner in that direction. If the discussions do become perilously close to the areas under concealment, hold your nerve and keep it hidden. Be careful about attempted distractions that actually give away what you are trying to hide. If you push in one direction, the interrogator may take this as a sign and go the opposite way.

Distract
Play games with them to distract them and keep them interested in safe areas. If you can capture their attention, you can lead them down false trails and away from the areas you want to conceal. A classic distraction is to pretend that you are collaborating, answering their questions, but in doing so causing delays and other distractions.

Delay
Find ways to slow down the proceedings, especially if you can benefit from such tactics. Play ill. Be sick or otherwise unable to collaborate. Get mentally ill. Go all twitchy. Scream and shout. Ask for time to think. Show that you are on the edge and just need a bit of time. Give them information that takes a while to check out.

Erect barrier
Erect a psychological barrier between you and them. The simplest barrier is silence. Imagine an invisible sound-proof wall between you. Other barriers that are used include distrust and hatred.

Distort
When you have to give out information, distort it, leaving out key items or adding in distractions and other modifications. Change names, places, times, and so on. Exaggerate some areas and play down others. Some people are so good at distortion that they even convince themselves. Work on making what you say so credible you have difficulty yourself in separating reality from fantasy.

Negotiate
When at last you have to give true information, negotiate with the interrogator. Get promises that you can be sure will be fulfilled. It is easy for interrogators to make empty promises in order to get information from you. Give only that which you are prepared to give. Test their integrity with small exchanges before giving away anything big. They may well test anything you give them, so be careful. You can give them things that are hard to verify or things that seem useful but are not.

Interrogators will often play the concerned friend in order to get the information. It is fairly well known that soft and sympathetic approaches are often more effective than the extreme at getting information. Sympathy may also be alternated with extreme pressure, perhaps with different people taking different roles (Good cop, bad cop). But if the person being interrogated has been trained in counter-interrogation, then sympathy will be very unlikely to work.
October 7th, 2011  
eTe
 
 
Thanks for that 42RM.
Interesting stuff.

Of course as simple as it sounds now, I imagine when you haven't eaten or slept in 3 days, things change...
October 7th, 2011  
bulldogg
 
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spartan613
Due to modern touchy-feely policies, CAC (conduct after capture) training isn't as tough as it used to be. But even in the old days, it was more about psychology than physical "torture" (and torture has been found to be an inefficient method of gaining the info you want).

You can undergo "hostage survival" training in Australia as a civilian (if you have the cash). There are plenty of providers these day, of varying quality, who deliver this training.
Or he could marry my ex wife.
October 8th, 2011  
LeEnfield
 
 
Well there are some very nice looking ladies that will teach you to accept pain for a price, mind you you could have more fun with them than you would in the forces
October 9th, 2011  
03USMC
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by LeEnfield
Well there are some very nice looking ladies that will teach you to accept pain for a price, mind you you could have more fun with them than you would in the forces
Only a Para, would come up with that.
October 9th, 2011  
eTe
 
 
Hahaha yea thus could bs true, but you might walk away with more than an attraction to pain.
 


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