What about this...n 1994, Ukraine had a gigantic nuclear arsenal until it signed the Budapest Memorandum and handed over 1,600 nuclear weapons left over from the former Soviet Union to Russia in exchange for a peace treaty and a guarantee never to be invaded or threatened.

Originally Posted by I3BrigPvSk

I agree with what you are saying. This shelling of residential areas must have consequences. I have changed my mind about the no-fly zone and perhaps not stopping with a no-fly zone because a no fly zone will not stop the Russian artillery. I read the US will provide Ukraine with long range air defense systems. I also think the Ukrainians shall get the MIG's and the SU's planes. They can probably not fight back the Russian planes, but they can make it more dangerous for the Russian planes. If the Ukraine get the air defense systems and maybe the planes it can get the no-fly zone without having NATO doing it for them.

I saw the Russians are constructing a fuel pipeline, it will be a nice target for the "kamikaze" drones the US are providing Ukraine with.

I dont support the no fly zone as it will put NATO aircraft into direct contact with Russian counterparts but it also means that they would have to put Russian airbases out of commission and that is a step to far in my opinion.

With regards to the pipeline this is why I would like to see Ukraine take the war into Russia attacking transport hubs, fuel depot's and supply points in southern Russia, I also think hitting the Black Sea Fleet and its support facilities is also a priority.

Originally Posted by George

They have violated neutrality by allowing Russia to use their territory to invade.

I also read that Belarus pulled out of supporting the invasion after it's military refused to take part.
https://www.israelhayom.com/2022/03/...aine-invasion/

Originally Posted by George

What about this...n 1994, Ukraine had a gigantic nuclear arsenal until it signed the Budapest Memorandum and handed over 1,600 nuclear weapons left over from the former Soviet Union to Russia in exchange for a peace treaty and a guarantee never to be invaded or threatened.

Yes, they failed to understand one of life's great maxim's, never trust a politician.

Putin and Erdogan spoke yesterday and Putin had these demands to end the war.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60785754

I watched this video and i saw something interesting in it.

One of the BMP's is the old BMP 1. Are the Russian losing so many IFV's they are taking out old BMP's out of storage?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ryCBcq_qxk

Originally Posted by I3BrigPvSk

Putin and Erdogan spoke yesterday and Putin had these demands to end the war.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60785754

The thing is how can anyone trust Putin, he has signed several treaties agreeing to respect Ukrainian borders and broken every one of them why the hell would they sign another one?
Basically he will agree to something and then next week decide he wants another chunk, strangely I think that "IF" there is any chance Ukraine could push Russia back and inflict serious losses then I think they should stay in the fight but only if they can get Russia going backward.

Originally Posted by I3BrigPvSk

I watched this video and i saw something interesting in it.

One of the BMP's is the old BMP 1. Are the Russian losing so many IFV's they are taking out old BMP's out of storage?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ryCBcq_qxk

I think a lot of the equipment the Russians are equipped with depends on the unit itself, I was watching a breakdown of armoured losses the other day, I wish I could remember where I saw it.

I think Ukraine is more or less forced to accept the Crimea and Donbas are gone when they can't take these two regions back. The "Finlandization" of Ukraine can be harder for the Ukrainians to accept when they want to join EU and NATO and this war has pushed Ukraine further west.

Ukraine can be successful in this war, but it depends on how much more Russia is willing to take. The Russian economy is crashing, the casualty rates are getting higher and higher. It also depends on what happens in the Russian government if the other members of it begin to view Putin as a problem. There are many "if" but I believe the Ukrainians can force the Russians to quit when the Russians realize they can't continue the war and a stalemate is somewhat a win for the Ukrainians.

This looked like a sizable pile of scrap metal...

convoy

If anyone in the Ukraine has got one of those Russian built trucks, there 's a crap load of spare wheels he/she can liberate

Strangely enough "Budapest Memorandum" doesn't seem to Google. Wonder who & what guarantees were made, specifically.

Originally Posted by George

Strangely enough "Budapest Memorandum" doesn't seem to Google. Wonder who & what guarantees were made, specifically.

Some information, it was an agreement relating to former Soviet nations giving up nuclear weapons for security guarantees.

https://warontherocks.com/2015/06/th...kraine-crisis/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buda...ity_Assurances